Tobacco Firms Resist Anti-Smoking Drives

Tobacco stocks rise despite governmental pushes to reduce smoking.
chingalerasays...

Problems manifest themselves when trying to eliminate "bad" habits. One available solution for those who relish in the pleasure of drawing smoke into their lungs without the pain of having their case-study photos on fag packets?? The electronic cigarette.(Powered by batteries/vegetable glycerine/propylene glycol and sweet, sweet, nicotine they won't damage your lungs, but let me tell-It'll sure amp-up your heart-rate what with that sweeeeet mainline of Nic-o-tine!

Heart-attacks come faster now. But at least I smell pretty again!

A10anissays...

I'm sick to death of the government (UK) pretending to care about the health of smokers. Cigarettes are now hidden from view (pointless and frustrating for staff), and the aim is to have plain packaging (which will simply mean people can buy the cheapest brand without other people knowing). These silly measures do NOT stop people smoking, or starting to smoke. If the government weren't so hypocritical they would either ban smoking, or make them £200 a packet. Of course they won't, because the tax they would lose would be unnaceptable. Why don't they f*** off and go campaign against others who take part in, possibly, fatal activities. They could start with ski-ing, abseiling, mountain climbing, or simply getting out of bed in the morning. We smokers know, and yes, stupidly, accept the risks, so PLEASE get off our backs.

gharksays...

>> ^A10anis:

I'm sick to death of the government (UK) pretending to care about the health of smokers. Cigarettes are now hidden from view (pointless and frustrating for staff), and the aim is to have plain packaging (which will simply mean people can buy the cheapest brand without other people knowing). These silly measures do NOT stop people smoking, or starting to smoke. If the government weren't so hypocritical they would either ban smoking, or make them £200 a packet. Of course they won't, because the tax they would lose would be unnaceptable. Why don't they f off and go campaign against others who take part in, possibly, fatal activities. They could start with ski-ing, abseiling, mountain climbing, or simply getting out of bed in the morning. We smokers know, and yes, stupidly, accept the risks, so PLEASE get off our backs.


Smoking harms others, smoking also costs the public billions of dollars because of CVD, lung cancer etc. healthcare, so I'd like to hope that they won't. Smoking simply isn't an issue that can be left alone. Australia just in the past few weeks successfully defended themselves against a lawsuit by big tobacco for the new plain packaging rules, we'll see what effects the rules have in time I guess.

Most of those activities you mentioned consist of some form of pretty strenuous exercise, which is beneficial to the health of the individual - so while there may be public costs associated with each of the activities, there are also many benefits, and little to no risk to others.

A10anissays...

>> ^ghark:

>> ^A10anis:
I'm sick to death of the government (UK) pretending to care about the health of smokers. Cigarettes are now hidden from view (pointless and frustrating for staff), and the aim is to have plain packaging (which will simply mean people can buy the cheapest brand without other people knowing). These silly measures do NOT stop people smoking, or starting to smoke. If the government weren't so hypocritical they would either ban smoking, or make them £200 a packet. Of course they won't, because the tax they would lose would be unnaceptable. Why don't they f off and go campaign against others who take part in, possibly, fatal activities. They could start with ski-ing, abseiling, mountain climbing, or simply getting out of bed in the morning. We smokers know, and yes, stupidly, accept the risks, so PLEASE get off our backs.

Smoking harms others, smoking also costs the public billions of dollars because of CVD, lung cancer etc. healthcare, so I'd like to hope that they won't. Smoking simply isn't an issue that can be left alone. Australia just in the past few weeks successfully defended themselves against a lawsuit by big tobacco for the new plain packaging rules, we'll see what effects the rules have in time I guess.
Most of those activities you mentioned consist of some form of pretty strenuous exercise, which is beneficial to the health of the individual - so while there may be public costs associated with each of the activities, there are also many benefits, and little to no risk to others.

You TOTALLY missed the point. And I have neither the time, nor the inclination, to explain it to you..

gharksays...

@A10anis I understand your point and I do agree that the right things aren't necessarily being done, however you did say that the govt. should "get off our backs", which, to me right there, smacks of self-justification and ignores the things I mentioned already (and which you didn't add as a concession in your original argument).

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