And five miles below that, you wouldn't hit the truck. The moral of the story? Drive five miles below the speed limit.

Moral of the story is don't drive into a fucking lorry

I blame the Guy that from the drivers perspective is casual walking at over 40+mph no wonder they drove into the lorry.

"So no matter how good of a driver you are..."

Yea, I guess it doesn't matter how skilled you are if you refuse to use the steering wheel to avoid an accident.

Just drive 1 MPH.

They don't show the guy going 160kmh who passed in front of the truck. He caused the accident, but was at work by the time the ambulance arrived.

Just drive a truck. tzz

*sigh*

>> ^DerHasisttot:

sigh


That is pretty well the same reaction I had to the lame comments. I have always driven like a "grandma" as some say, because I respect the laws of physics and realize the dangerous game you play when you drive at what one can consider, great speed. I drive even more precisely because I have respect for the rules of the road and the notion of consequences.

I think the video was a little too Micheal Bay but the message is pretty clear.

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^DerHasisttot:
sigh

That is pretty well the same reaction I had to the lame comments. I have always driven like a "grandma" as some say, because I respect the laws of physics and realize the dangerous game you play when you drive at what one can consider, great speed. I drive even more precisely because I have respect for the rules of the road and the notion of consequences.
I think the video was a little too Micheal Bay but the message is pretty clear.


OMFG! THAT WAS YOU THIS MORNING WASN'T IT??? GTFO OF MY WAY MAN!!! I WAS LATE!!!

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Yes, the slower you're travelling, the shorter your stopping distance. But building a scenario to demonstrate that by using the EXACT difference in stopping distance required to prove the point a bit contrived. Not that I'm justifying speeding (in my car). My wife says I drive like a grandma.

Its weird i don't drive myself but i'm the typ of person thats pretty relaxed and would let people pass im not sure why people in cars go mental about gaining 5 minutes.

Just put the radio on to something chilled out get the car cozy and enjoy the ride it sure beats public transport allot of the time.

I guess people schedule there lives really tight or feal like they haven't hit a goal if they miss something by cupple of minutes.

having said all that if i worked a shitty 9-5 job then id probably just be batshit mental 24,7.

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^DerHasisttot:
sigh

That is pretty well the same reaction I had to the lame comments. I have always driven like a "grandma" as some say, because I respect the laws of physics and realize the dangerous game you play when you drive at what one can consider, great speed. I drive even more precisely because I have respect for the rules of the road and the notion of consequences.
I think the video was a little too Micheal Bay but the message is pretty clear.

I don't obey any posted limits marked in imperial units.

Great, So the faster driver panicked and could not steer to avoid an accident the slower driver is still hurt because he was driving slower and holding up traffic so the car behind him tailgating slammed in to him and pinned his car against the larger truck anyway.
But its all a moot point anyway because of nanny states future policy's people will no longer be able to leave their home unless Tagged, tracked and followed while being wrapped in over lapping layers of bubble sheets with a government or insurance official telling you what you can and can not do the entire way.

What I really got from this video.
Tires, Road grade, Weight of car, Safety features and Driver experience or training do not effect anything so drive slower or will you kill not only your self but also everyone else.

Scare tactic's fail. They only serve to make the scared drivers far more nervous while driving then they should be.

meh

Pray harder and the accident wouldn't happen in the first place.

I always have mixed feelings about these kinds of PSAs. On the one hand, yes traveling slower shortens your stopping distance. On the other hand, there are a whole bunch of factors that go into the speed you travel at on any given road. The issue above was straight-line braking and I have avoided accidents due to being able to maneuver my vehicle. Also, I noticed that the faster car hit the side edge of the tail bumper which would cause massive damage, while the slower car hit the side safely panel on the truck. Pretty sure the faster car wouldn't have had so much damage if it had hit the same panel. I think they did this intentionally for dramatic effect. I think this actually takes away from their message.

What is the posted speed limit? What is the commonly understood speed limit? Highway 2 south of Edmonton is posted as 110 km/h (~68 mph). Common speed that most people travel at is 130 km/h (~80 mph). Is that a problem? No, not really. Everyone going at around the same speed works fine. People going 90 or 150 are the problem. The RCMP don't even pull you over unless you are traveling unsafely (fast lane changes or traveling over 130). I have driven through about 20 speed traps on Highway 2 at 130 and have never been pulled over.

Am I a good driver? Sorta. I know of a handful of friends who are better than me, including my wife. I am attentive and I know how to spot danger and how to avoid it. I maintain my vehicle and make sure that all steering, braking and yes, acceleration systems are in good working order. I have rarely used my cell phone when driving and when there are complicated road sections I usually stop talking and ignore any passengers to focus on the driving. I believe that this is why I haven't had a traffic accident in 15 years, but have avoided many. Speed is always a factor in accidents, but it is rarely the sole cause.

The vehicle is also a factor. I have driven down a 4 lane road marked 60 km/h and have checked my speed in my car and I am doing 80. That speed felt safe to me. I have driven that same road in my parent's van and have checked my speed at it felt like I was speeding at 55. I know that van accelerates, brakes and steers much worse than my car.

I believe that one of the biggest factors is driver training. I hate the fact that it takes almost no skill to get a driver's license and that there are no re-tests or other requirements. When I worked at a big chemical plant, long ago, fork lift drivers had all kinds of training and driving tests and re-tests to make sure they were operating safely. Almost all accidents had a root cause in a lack of training or experience and corrective action was taken. Drivers on the road? Whatever, just let them answer 10 multiple-choice questions and give them a plastic card with no follow-up. Drive safely!

It's funny that everyone i know who thinks they are so vastly superior in driving skills compared to the average driver all have been in more accidents than the average driver.

These PSA adds might use scare tactics, but they are also based on statistics and physics, and they are right. At high speeds the only thing your "skill" is going to tell you is that if you swerve, you probably will lose control and roll your car.

YOU might think you're fucking Vin Diesel, but physics will let you know in the end.

Another thing, those of you who think you've got enough skill to pretty much avoid anything, you might it surprising that sometimes an event can happen too fast for a human to react to. Watch this video;

http://videosift.com/video/Shocking-Accident-That-You-re-Definitely-Not-Ready-For

If you are the type who is likely to speed, you are probably the type who follows too closely to other vehicles in order to try and get them to move in the passing lane. Surprise again!

This is already on here somewhere. When will someone invent a word for that?

*Deja vudeo>> ^kymbos:

This is already on here somewhere. When will someone invent a word for that?

>> ^guymontage:

It's funny that everyone i know who thinks they are so vastly superior in driving skills compared to the average driver all have been in more accidents than the average driver.
These PSA adds might use scare tactics, but they are also based on statistics and physics, and they are right. At high speeds the only thing your "skill" is going to tell you is that if you swerve, you probably will lose control and roll your car.
YOU might think you're fucking Vin Diesel, but physics will let you know in the end.


Could you bring some statistics into this argument? Last I heard you have about a 10% chance rolling over a sedan unless you are doing way over the posted limits.

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>> ^Darkhand:

>> ^guymontage:
It's funny that everyone i know who thinks they are so vastly superior in driving skills compared to the average driver all have been in more accidents than the average driver.
These PSA adds might use scare tactics, but they are also based on statistics and physics, and they are right. At high speeds the only thing your "skill" is going to tell you is that if you swerve, you probably will lose control and roll your car.
YOU might think you're fucking Vin Diesel, but physics will let you know in the end.

Could you bring some statistics into this argument? Last I heard you have about a 10% chance rolling over a sedan unless you are doing way over the posted limits.



Statistics are for trannies and queers.

If you'd been doing 100km/h you'd have been far up the road by the time the reversing truck was even on the scene.

/Edit: speeding is bad. Not checking to see if someone else posted the same point you want to make but in a funnier way is bad too.

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^Darkhand:
>> ^guymontage:
It's funny that everyone i know who thinks they are so vastly superior in driving skills compared to the average driver all have been in more accidents than the average driver.
These PSA adds might use scare tactics, but they are also based on statistics and physics, and they are right. At high speeds the only thing your "skill" is going to tell you is that if you swerve, you probably will lose control and roll your car.
YOU might think you're fucking Vin Diesel, but physics will let you know in the end.

Could you bring some statistics into this argument? Last I heard you have about a 10% chance rolling over a sedan unless you are doing way over the posted limits.


Statistics are for trannies and queers.

Hey! I love statistics. Oh, wait, that just proves your point.

Speeding by 5mph isn't the problem. It's drivers leaving a margin of error between life and death that's smaller than 5mph. If your driving at 60mph, you need that much more awareness to stay safe than at 55mph, same as 65mph needs that much more than 60mph.

PSA's like this that get all anal over a 5mph difference are the problem. It's drivers who aren't watching closely enough or carefully enough at ANY and all speeds that are the problem.

I just drive in reverse everywhere so I'm going -60 mph.

bullshit. with the same basic argument you could outlaw all traditional steel brakes. ceramic composite brakes stop your car at shorter distances. so go and buy your ride 8000EUR brakes or you will die a horrible death.

>> ^bcglorf:

Speeding by 5mph isn't the problem. It's drivers leaving a margin of error between life and death that's smaller than 5mph. If your driving at 60mph, you need that much more awareness to stay safe than at 55mph, same as 65mph needs that much more than 60mph.
PSA's like this that get all anal over a 5mph difference are the problem. It's drivers who aren't watching closely enough or carefully enough at ANY and all speeds that are the problem.


For starters, this is 60 Kilometres per hour, which is one of the speed limit standards* in Australia, which equates to about 37 mph iirc, so 65 would be speeding in a 60 zone of course. This is not designed to say "Hey, you can't dodge out of the way of the truck", just to inform you of how braking works and what effect extra speed has on it...

So regardless of how much attention you are paying, accidents can happen. If you are driving at the speed limit, you will have a better chance of stopping in time or minimising damage to the car, to you or your passengers, or the person/thing that you hit. This ad isn't to the exclusion of things like driver awareness or leaving proper spacing, it's complimentary.

*The other major standards being 80 and 100.

Following distance is more important than speed. Just watch where you're going and never follow closer than 3 seconds. Following too closely obstructs your vision of what's ahead.

>> ^blankfist:

And five miles below that, you wouldn't hit the truck. The moral of the story? Drive five miles below the speed limit.


Or drive 75 and you'll be past the truck before it even becomes a problem!

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
If you'd been doing 100km/h you'd have been far up the road by the time the reversing truck was even on the scene.
/Edit: speeding is bad. Not checking to see if someone else posted the same point you want to make but in a funnier way is bad too.