I feel better for not getting Dunkin in Montreal. Or worse, I'm not sure.

Hilarious though.

Eye-muffs? I've never heard of them before now, but I want a pair. They'll match my cock-shoe nicely.

Those idiots don't even realize they're racists. They didn't push for a boycott because they thought it was probably an "innocent mistake". They thought Rachel and Dunkin' Donuts probably didn't realize "the symbolism". What complete and utter bastards. How gracious that you give her the benefit of the doubt that exist *only in your imaginations*. Nobody with more than half a brain would think the scarf could possibly indicate support of anything anti-American. What lunatics, and shame on Dunkin' Donuts for caving so quickly to the extremist fearmongers.

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The scarf is called a Keffiyeh which has several other names as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh

Learn how to tie one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MbmazCMuZI

More detailed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dx-2vCXta0

Just because you have to have a radio show style sidekick, does he have to speak into a radio style microphone?

agreed abducted, overall, the format, the subject matter, the tone, and the pathetic reliance on snide sarcasm, makes these young turk schmos a pathetic new and unimproved form of worthless internet infotainment......
TYT:last week, last month, last year, go away......the recent pile of these craptacular segments on the sift, leaves old shoe flavor on the pallet, way before the credits roll-

oh wait, some folks really like this shit, man I'm sorrrrry......

No you're correct Choggie. It does get old. I get tired of people telling me what to think.

A) A spokesperson to hawk doughnuts? Not selling enough fat to Americans?
B) Rachel Ray scares me.

I expect it of the right wing nuts to complain about anything that could possibly be considered in any way maybe to be anything to do with something that might conceivably be seen to be in some way related to something like an object that in half light be thought of as similar to or pertaining to another object that might have been bought in a shop that the owner maybe once saw an object that was a little bit like something that someone who believes in a god other than their own once considered wearing but decided against because it was a bit warm outside.

But it STUNNED me to hear that DD caved. I mean FUCKING HELL, they ACTUALLY PULLED THE AD! What kind of horrendously stupid pandering to the extremists is this? Oh yes, she's wearing a paisley scarf, we apologize, that was horrible of us... horrible.

Why would you even do this from a marketing standpoint? It's SO OBVIOUSLY NOT supporting anything other than their terrible brand of iced drinks (or something) that if you left it up only the absolute nuttiest of nuts would be offended and the rest of the sane world would come to your website to see what the nuts were complaining about, and therefore give you oodles of publicity.

It is Utterly, UTTERLY disgusting that they pulled the ad, utterly.

Right wing nuts have all the right in the world to complain that they think that it's supporting terrorists who enjoy iced beverages, but the rest of us should be more than allowed to tell them 'Good for you whackjob, you spend you entire life LOOKING for evil signs of terrorists everywhere, we'll continue actually living our lives and ignoring you, thanks'.

FUCK.

Oh, and I agree with the comments that having a sidekick talking into a radio style mike... come on, that's pretty darn lame.

The Young Turks started off as a radio show. Hence the radio microphones. They started webcasting video pretty early on, but they were still primarily radio. I'm not sure if they broadcast anymore, but they still do podcasts.

Ever seen a video of Howard Stern's show? It's like that.

Ricockulous. And I'm not even a coffee fan.

I do, on the other hand, think those Keffiyehs are pretty! So I'm sold on that part...

>> ^choggie:
agreed abducted, overall, the format, the subject matter, the tone, and the pathetic reliance on snide sarcasm, makes these young turk schmos a pathetic new and unimproved form of worthless internet infotainment......
TYT:last week, last month, last year, go away......the recent pile of these craptacular segments on the sift, leaves old shoe flavor on the pallet, way before the credits roll-


aww C'mon Choggie the Young Turks are great, your probably just angry because I used to blog with them

I wear a scarf during the winter. I also Jihad during the winter.

coincidence? I think NOT!

That guest is a retard.

Do you think Dunkin Donuts would serve me and take my money if I walked in wearing a Keffiyeh? I'll bet they would.

First of all, since when was there a right wing blogosphere. You can hardly call 3 blogs a "sphere."

My biggest issue isn't that somebody had a beef about the scarf. People are always going to throw out ridiculous accusations towards corporations. They get barrages of complaints about ads all the time. I'm trying to figure out why Dunkin Donuts would pull the add just because somebody had something against it.

^Fair enough, deedub. However Michelle Malkin's blog - michellemalkin.com - and Charles Johnson's blog - littlegreenfootballs.com - are two of the BIGGEST blogs in the right wing blogosphere. In fact I'm pretty sure that both are in the Top 10 for conservative blogs.

So if someone said the "left-wing blogosphere" when they really meant just DailyKos, Atrios, and MyDD, I'd still believe they have a right to say that because those three are huge left wing blogs.

"We have lost, obviously and the terrorist have won" lol!

it would have more middle eastern authenticity if someone would have held high the head of that donut eating infidel!

>> ^deedub81:
First of all, since when was there a right wing blogosphere. You can hardly call 3 blogs a "sphere."
My biggest issue isn't that somebody had a beef about the scarf. People are always going to throw out ridiculous accusations towards corporations. They get barrages of complaints about ads all the time. I'm trying to figure out why Dunkin Donuts would pull the add just because somebody had something against it.

blogotriangle?

^ actually, i think malkin qualifies as a blogo-möbius strip.

only has one side.

ps. Julia Child was a spy for Yasser Arafat.

Malkin:

The keffiyeh, for the clueless, is the traditional scarf of Arab men that has come to symbolize murderous Palestinian jihad. Popularized by Yasser Arafat and a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos, the apparel has been mainstreamed by both ignorant (and not so ignorant) fashion designers, celebrities and left-wing icons.


Nazis ruined the swastika so why wouldn't this garment take the hit after being draped on the heads of terror-rats?


The Young Turds should be grateful for anything to talk about.

The Nazis didn't ruin the swastika, it's back

I do not apologize for the message conveyed in linked video nor do I apologize for vote whoreism.

"I expect it of the right wing nuts to....."

To be expected of robots to ascribe to newsspeak, labels, rhetoric, and emotion-driven semantics, to aid and abet their keepers.....
(don't worry, have been guilty of many aspects of programming now transparent or otherwise understood through less muddied spectacles)

and fedquip, that bit of assumptive testimony, is news to me-
NEWSFLASH!!
A blog does not, reputable information make-
it's called editorial, and I don't read tabloids, either......

>> ^quantumushroom:
Malkin:

The keffiyeh, for the clueless, is the traditional scarf of Arab men that has come to symbolize murderous Palestinian jihad. Popularized by Yasser Arafat and a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos, the apparel has been mainstreamed by both ignorant (and not so ignorant) fashion designers, celebrities and left-wing icons.

Nazis ruined the swastika so why wouldn't this garment take the hit after being draped on the heads of terror-rats?

The Young Turds should be grateful for anything to talk about.


The keffiyah has only become a symbol in your eyes and in the the eyes of others who are looking for more things in the world to hate.

Many of the architects of the war crime called Operation Iraqi Freedom wear U.S. flag lapel pins. Should we oppose all displays of the American flag because of this? Wait, don't answer that, QM. I know you're proud of our country's atrocities.

Nazis ruined the swastika so why wouldn't this garment take the hit after being draped on the heads of terror-rats?
quantummushroom


Well if thats the case then why don't we ban all adds for box cutters? They (the terrorists) pretty much ruined that household object now didn't they? Or how about sandals, I bet lots of terrorists wear sandals while killing American soldiers. I bet they also ride in cars, use blankets, drink from cups, brush their teeth, and eat food off of plates. Are all of those objects gonna "take the hit" as well?
By no means am I trying to make some argument for bringing back the swastika, that symbol IS ruined, but a scarf!?
This is absolute racist garbage. Why don't we just round up everyone thats wearing one and throw them in prison camps like we did the Japanese. We can even make them feel like they are back at home in the middle east by showing them the Dunkin Donuts ad all day long.

No self respecting chef would allow themselves to endorse fast food franchises such as Dunkin Donuts...

Oh wait, that's right, she's not a chef! How silly of me.

But I digress. This was pretty ridiculous to hear about. Did this ever air in regular new shows? Anyways I don't think it looks like a kaffiyeh at all.

Someone go ask Farhad, he lives near there or something or somewhere called Uzbekistan or something. They're all the same people

I don't see anything wrong with the scarf, it doesn't say a thing other than matches well with her gray top. It looks nice. I grow bored with this constant overreacting.

That being said it's obvious Rachael Ray didn't dress herself. If she had any taste, she would have been pimping Krispy Kreme.

I'd just boycott Rachael Ray. Look at a "classic" ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY0Ecn393qI

The Kaffiyeh is a modern symbol of genocide against Jews and hatred of the west, just as the meaning of the swastika changed after the Nazis so has the Kaffiyeh. It's very ignorant to defend the wearing of the kaffiyeh as benign fashion. They have been co-opted by those wanting to destroy the west. THEY EVEN SAY IT - http://www.thestar.com/living/article/433754
"Ideally, I want everyone to wear the kaffiyeh," says Habib, "but if it's just worn for the aesthetic value, without the spirit of resistance wrapped up in every thread, then they might as well not wear it at all, and if it becomes appropriated by commercial interests, then that's even worse."
Don't just write off those that oppose the Kaffiyeh as racists.

There you have it, "some guy" said it! Who the hell is "they", anyway?

AnimalsForCrackers;

If you want to find out who Habib is, or "some guy" as you put it, read the article. As for "They", again, it is in the article. Sorry to confuse you, but I assume that is the state you are most used to.
Here is another article to confuse you : http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/30/1211654279497.html

“A Palestinian customer came up and asked me if I’m wearing this scarf as a fashion statement or for political reasons.

“I had no idea what he was talking about because I don’t follow politics at all. I just laughed it off.

“Two days later he called and complained about it.”

Clearly, the Kaffeyeh does not mean what it once did. Please understand that it has become politicized, if you agree or not, and why would someone selling donuts want to get involved with that?

Solmed,
I will admit that I am guilty of the same over generalization that I am chastising. By no means did I mean to say that everyone that is or was offended by her wearing the scarf is racist. For that I truly am sorry.

With that said I still maintain that what the "right-wing bloggers" asserted IS racist.
How is it any different than any other disgusting racist generalization put upon a group or race of people?

All Middle eastern or ANYONE for that matter who wears a keffiyeh or anything remotely similar to one are sponsors of terrorism or terrorists themselves????

If they are going to go that far as to assume that then when will it end? Does that also mean that anyone using box cutters are actually plane high jackers in training?

or who knows maybe it was dunkin donuts who started the whole anthrax scare with their "powdered sugar" donuts...

During the McCarthy era the hatred of communism was so pronounced that some people saw the wearing of red clothes to be a sign that you supported communists. Sure, the communists regimes did adopt the color red as a symbol, but did that make the color red itself bad? Well, if you were a fanatical supporter of McCarthy it did. I see what Michelle Malkin, Charles Johnson, and others are currently doing as nothing more than the same sort of fear-mongering that McCarthy did.

I refuse to see a scarf from a culture that predates the whole goddamn Israeli-Palestinian conflict as nothing more than a goddamn scarf. If someone else wants to designate it as a symbol of hate it does NOT mean we are compelled to follow suit. Just because some Palestinians view this scarf through that lens it doesn't mean that every Palestinian sees it the same way. Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and many right wingers hate France. That doesn't mean all Americans hate France.

This isn't a swastika. It's a scarf. End of story.

kronosposeidon;

If you believe that, you are truly out of touch with middle eastern current events. The Kaffeiyeh is not what it once was. I hate to break it to you kiddo, but the meaning of symbols change throughout time, whether you want them to or not, whether you deny it or not.
I do not believe that DD wanted to support terrorists or that the thought to do so even crossed DD's mind. I do not believe that the ad in any way supports terror. But, the fact is that people took offense, on both sides of the issue; one group because they thought it supports terror and one group because they thought the symbol of their oppression was being commercialized.
And I know the Kaffeiya isn't a swastika - that was what the Nazis used while trying to kill every living Jew, the Kaffeiya is what Hammas and Hezbolah use as a symbol while trying to kill every living Jew, so you're quite right.

I hate to break it you kiddo, but I know that symbols can change in meaning over time.

If YOU choose to see it as a symbol of hate, that is YOUR decision. It is not your place to tell me how to interpret that symbol, nor is it Michelle Malkin's, or Zionists, or Palestinans. I refuse to let a hatemonger like Michelle Malkin tell me anything for that matter. So go ahead, tell us that we all support terrorism because of a damn scarf. That's what Michelle Malkin did when she threatened a boycott against Dunkin Donuts, basically saying that if Dunkin Donuts didn't pull the ad it would a tacit endorsement of Palestinian terrorism, and therefore she would have to encourage a boycott.

Please tell us that we tacitly endorse terrorism simply because of the stupid scarf. I just want to hear you say it, rather than couch it in defending those who took offense.

kronosposeidon;

I don't think you really understand the issue. You are ignorant to the meaning of the Kaffeiya, so why should it offend you. You say it's just a scarf (and I can tell you that statement alone is very offensive to some people). You are not the only person in the world and not everyone in the world thinks like you or has your world view. Just because it doesn't offend you doesn't mean that it isn't offensive to others. Just because people don't think like you do doesn't give you the right to spread hatred.

I'm the hater? I ain't the one backing hatemonger Malkin.

The keffiyah has only become a symbol in your eyes and in the the eyes of others who are looking for more things in the world to hate.

I didn't put the picnic table thingy on Arafat's head. It's just...QUILTY by association.

Many of the architects of the war crime called Operation Iraqi Freedom wear U.S. flag lapel pins. Should we oppose all displays of the American flag because of this? Wait, don't answer that, QM. I know you're proud of our country's atrocities.

Krono, you sacrifice your own happiness with this anti-America stuff. In less than a century, liberals have gone from supporting getting rid of a brutal dictator (Austrian) to booing the removal of an Iraqi one. (Germany didn't attack us directly, Japan did)!

Iraq's current population is about 27 million. There is no way less than two hundred thousand troops could stay if the Iraqi people didn't want them there.

Solmed, the article you link to says it symbolizes the Palestinian struggle, not terrorism. There is quite a big difference between the two. Do Palestinians not have the right to seek a better life for themselves?