conansays...

The last few weeks somehat shocked me. I found out that there are not just some really, really stupid people out there in the world but obviously there number is huge. All this "Barck HUSSEIN Obama" thing... There really are people who think that a middle name says something about one's believes or whatever. If that's so does having the same first name as a well known psychopath and mass murderer make you also one? What about all the people in Austria that go by the name "Hitler"? Folks are just so plain ignorant when they try to reduce stuff to easy-to-swallow bits and pieces. Why try and actually read political programs? Look up the biography of a candidate? No, that's all too much hassle. Just find some nice clichee and stop thinking for oneself. I would feeld ashamed of myself to go out on the streets and shout "Hussein Mohammed Obama". It would just show that i'm stupid for the most part of it, but also that i'm ignorant (Mohammed isn't the name of Obama), racist (because i project fear and hate into a name and / or a religion) and that i'm a willing tool for crazy spindoctors. Luckily the internet doesn't forget anything and there's a realistic chance that those people will be confronted with their stupididy again in their lifetime. Maybe then they'll see just how incredible closed-minded that was. I really feel sorry for them, their families and for their country for which they are so proud of. I don't think that's the america that was once so loved by all.

Baerasays...

There seems to be an ever increasing divide in the U.S. between those who have feelings and those who have feelings with rational thought.

Majortomyorkesays...

^ I've been wondering for a while, what's the solution? Aside from the medical breakthrough of a pill that makes people less ignorant, how do you get through the indoctrination that has caused these people to become what they are.

zombieatersays...

>> ^Majortomyorke:
^ I've been wondering for a while, what's the solution? Aside from the medical breakthrough of a pill that makes people less ignorant, how do you get through the indoctrination that has caused these people to become what they are.


I'd say that the solution lies in education. The problem isn't that they believe these rediculous statements, the problem is deeper than that: that they don't have the mental capacity, forethought, or, more likely, the will to question what they are told (most likely by certain right-wing media outlets) or to determine for themselves the positions and aspirations of the candidates. I believe that education gives people the tools to do these things.

13289says...

"here seems to be an ever increasing divide in the U.S. between those who have feelings and those who have feelings with rational thought."

That is probably the most hilarious and awesome comment I've ever read on any posting to anything on the internet.

Well played sir/ma'am... well played.

NetRunnersays...

^ I agree about education, but we also need to find some way to fix journalism in this country.

They need to report the truth, not "the truth as Republicans see it", nor "the truth as Democrats see it", nor this pervasive BS of trying to appear "non-partisan" by attempting to balance every negative truth about one party with a negative non-truth (or exaggerated truth) about the other.

Tell us what's really going on, and stop being stenographers for people who have a vested interest in the eternal spin war. Stop treating all facts like a debate topic.

Trancecoachsays...

Make no mistake: The rhetoric coming from Palin and McCain, themselves, is fueling this type of ignorance and spurring the very kinds of divisiveness that this country was founded to eradicate. What stuns me the most about this is the candidates' repeated denial of their appeals to our "lesser nature" (in, for example, their repeated attacks on Obama, as opposed to their espousal of their own virtues), who instead claim that it's Obama's "fault" (for not attending McCain's "town meetings" or for allowing similar comments--which I've never heard--to arise at Obama's own rallies) that such things are emergent from the "fringe" element.

Someone needs to tell these politicians to grow the f*** up. The problems this country--and this world--is facing are far too dire, far too real, to continue to diminish ourselves to this low-level type of elementary school bickering.

It's crass and insulting and beneath the dignity of most Human affairs.

rougysays...

>> ^Majortomyorke:
^ I've been wondering for a while, what's the solution? Aside from the medical breakthrough of a pill that makes people less ignorant, how do you get through the indoctrination that has caused these people to become what they are.


Given the current system structure and political climate, I don't see any change for the better coming at all, just a steady and slow decline for the worst.

I can seriously see America morphing into a quasi-facsimile of Nazi Germany.

Godwin me if you want, but given our shitty educational system, and our clearly biased media, there really is no hope as far as i can see.

If you disagree with the rightwing on almost any level, you are immediately painted as an anti-American of some sort.

zombieatersays...

>> ^NetRunner:
^ I agree about education, but we also need to find some way to fix journalism in this country.
They need to report the truth, not "the truth as Republicans see it", nor "the truth as Democrats see it", nor this pervasive BS of trying to appear "non-partisan" by attempting to balance every negative truth about one party with a negative non-truth (or exaggerated truth) about the other.
Tell us what's really going on, and stop being stenographers for people who have a vested interest in the eternal spin war. Stop treating all facts like a debate topic.

However, if the people were educated, they would call out shitty journalism as exactly what it is. Those news programs would get low ratings and they would have to change their rhetoric. The basis to change is proper education.

The same thing is true concerning Trancecoach's comment about McCain/Palin's rhetoric fueling the ignorance. If that was true, why aren't you and I giving into it? We've heard all of their bullshit. It's because we have the capacity and comprehension needed to debunk their message of devisiveness.

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