My own extensive, hands-on research on this subject is at odds with the hypothesis. I must continue my studies to be sure.

An inspiring idea, dft. I believe I must also undertake some research on this subject, albeit in a slightly different direction. The outline is as follows:

Criteria (as indicated by this video material):
All of my wife's (hereinafter, Test Subject No.1) underwear falls strictly into the 'naughty' category, as classified by one of my extremities. That's one.
Second-although I'm not entirely sure (more qualitative data need to be collected via hands-on approach/observations), it is likely Test Subject No.1 has masturbated at least once.

Hypothesis:
Test Subject No.1 is homosexual.

Method:
Upon initial brainstorming the most effective method for verifying the hypothesis seems to be subjecting Test Subject No.1 to camera-monitored and recorded close proximity of a visually pleasing specimen of the same gender, preferably homosexual, robed also in what can be classified as 'naughty' underwear. I also acknowledge other conditions such as downtempo music, presence of lit candles and a dip of aphrodisiac in the preceding cuisine/ventilation system might benefit eliciting a more rapid response from both Test Subjects.

I only wonder, to whom should I turn for financing such research?

you've really got to feel sorry for most of the wives married to "ex gays"... I'm happy to believe that not everyone is gay (or straight) all the time and some people can be move around the sexual spectrum... but c'mon ladies... you're married to a gay man who's in denial - not a recipe for a happy marriage.

as for mastubation makes you gay... I'm pretty sure that most people wouldn't agree with that.
As for "my wife's vagina is enough"... seriously... lets hope she never leaves you (or goes off sex)

Why do experiments when we can use logic™?

Premise:

A) getting sexually pleasured by somebody of ones own sex is gay.
B) masturbation is a form of sexual pleasure.
C) the only person involved in masturbation is the masturbator.
D) all people are their own sex.
E) masturbators are people.

Conclusion:

masterbating is gay.

^ that's awesome.

Well done dgandhi

Exactly what underwear did he give up?

Jocelyn Elders:
"It's been said that 90% of men masturbate, 80% of women masturbate

...and the rest lie."

>> ^dgandhi:


As hilarious as that is, I feel it necessary to point out that the defining characteristic homosexuality is the sexual arousal from other members of the same sex.

It is defined as: "sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex."

"My wife's vagina is enough... God created her, for my 'fit'."

Wow, way to totally devalue your wife as a person there. Not only is he a gay man in denial he's a misogynist to boot.

i'm gay for myself.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
It is defined as: "sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex."

Where exactly do you see other in that definition?

P.S.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - William Shakespeare (Hamlet)

I love how in EVERY discussion to have EVER occurred about homosexuality, that Shakespeare line is pulled.

1) I wasn't protesting anything
2) I'm not even stating my opinions or beliefs about anything here

The definition doesn't include "toward one's self" - the "toward a person or persons" are meant to point to other people.


All that aside, if your comment wasn't a joke, then I'm disappointed, because I laughed my ass off.

If it's not, then 'masturbation = homosexuality" isn't true for one simple reason. When I'm doing the knuckle shuffle, I'm not being aroused by the thought of other men. If you want to pull the "Well you're a male" card then I offer you this:
In the words of Metallica - So fucking what?

I'm pretty sure you would think it weird to have someone else wipe your ass or aid you in urination, no matter the gender. So why is it OK for you to do it yourself? Because it's your body.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
All that aside, if your comment wasn't a joke, then I'm disappointed, because I laughed my ass off.

Of course, but I got an extra giggle out of yanking your chain (innuendo?).

Your counter argument was premise A.

And seriously "I fuck guys, but I'm thinking about women" doesn't work with partners, so why should it work solo? The joke is funny because it points to a real ambiguity in the hetero/homo distinction, don't try to explain it away, it's there. On the other hand if some people were not so obsessed with trying to explain it away it would probably loose it's humor.

You got a laugh from my post, I get a laugh from your responses, so don't think I don't appreciate you contribution, just understand that your position is part of the joke.

"Masturbation is sex with someone you love." - Woody Allen

Gay and straight are social constructs.

Big floppy donkey dick. Wait, what are we talking about?

This guy (not the one speaking in the video, the one making the anti jerk off comments) is truly the WORST type of religious nut.

Problems are:
* He is gay, but as he has been told, being gay is wrong... so he really, really wants to not be gay. Problem there is that those telling him being gay is wrong are themselves very wrong, there's nothing at all wrong with it.
* So, he's trying to deny natural urges of being attracted to men. He NEVER will be able to get rid of them. He can try to 'ignore' them, he can try to shift his focus to his poor, poor wife. But the issue is he is attracted to MEN.
* He has deduced that wanking is wrong because when you masturbate, if you are not using visual aids, it's up to your mind to picture what best turns you on, and what does his mind come up with? Men... men all naked and sweaty and gay. So, unless he has his 'wife' there with him fondling his package, he can't get aroused by women... So he's decided it's the act of wanking that's the issue here, not the people who say you have to deny what your own sexuality and attractions are.

Doing this will do nothing other than make him miserable and those around him. And the worst thing is that he spreads this complete lie and makes others subscribe to it, thus making them also unhappy and those around them also miserable.

And the end result will be someone finally not being able to take the denying of oneself any longer and doing something terrible, like cheating on their partner, committing suicide, becoming violent towards their partner, any number of horrible things that occur when you're suppressing such a huge part of yourself.

Very, very, very sad.

If you cloned, and had sex with yourself is that masturbation?

>> ^my15minutes:
i'm gay for myself.

I, too, am gay for my15minute's self.

no devicrom...that's a little slice of heaven.....

>> ^Devicrom:
If you cloned, and had sex with yourself is that masturbation?

Does swallowing make one a cannibal?

"If you cloned, and had sex with yourself is that masturbation?"
Devicrom

A) the quote above? Fucking loved it!
b) Adds a whole new layer to "Go fuck yourself"

'Here 'til Sunday, enjoy the veal!

>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^my15minutes:
>> i'm gay for myself.

> I, too, am gay for my15minute's self.

guess that makes me the mouse on your back?
only a mouse from the waist up, though, baby. below the belt, i'm all moose.
hope you can take it all. but don't worry, i'll be gentle. after all, i can't swim!

If two totally hot lesbian identical twins had sex...

... well that would just be awesome. What were we talking about again?

"Go fuck yourself"

Now you're thinking with portals.

Well, see, he researched gay people and found out they all masturbated. Therefore we can conclude that masturbation causes gayness.

In order to make sure my g/f stays straight(well, enough anyway), I am going to have to ask her to give up underwear; "naughty" is quite subjective and we don't want any accidents, and it would seem better to avoid it altogether.

So . . . the clone thing got me thinking . . . about something else of course, but what happens when a transgendered masturbates? If they identify as female for instance, and think of other females, that's intellectual homosexuality. If they think of males, then it's biological masturbation. Man, they're fucked either way . . .

You could always do what Iran does, and just offer government incentives for sex changes. . . . but I'd make an ugly ass girl. Damn! lol

69 votes... 7/20/2009.. dont ruin it!

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Is this fixed with the right embed?
There's no reference to masturbation in it.
Great clip though.

I'd love to see the video that was originally sifted.
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I hope someone finds the right clip .. been looking for it myself.
The comments here are hilarious!
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