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The thing is its not realy calculable by a human , so its largely chance ,

you would have to ask him to take the same shot 50 or so times and then see how often it goes in the whole to see how much skill comes into it.

Im sure you have to be very good to get to a level where its possibale to get it in with this kind of shot in the first place , but what im saying is that there is good statistical probablity that all of the pro players would probably make this same shot with the same odds.

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FTW!! He is pretty good. Fuck Tiger Woods.

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Wow, he's ooooooooooold!

Not that I disagree, but golf is a funny sport; its almost like poker, where you look at it and see statistics and chance, but then there are people who consistently are there on the leader board or in the top 10 at competitions week after week, year after year.

And then even beyond them you get a Jack Nicklaus or a Tiger Woods, where its absolutely surreal to see the control they have over their muscles, taking in so much experience and quickly calculating based on so many variable and constraints how to move a little ball so far away to such a specific location. It can be absolutely remarkable.



>> ^westy:

The thing is its not realy calculable by a human , so its largely chance ,
you would have to ask him to take the same shot 50 or so times and then see how often it goes in the whole to see how much skill comes into it.
Im sure you have to be very good to get to a level where its possibale to get it in with this kind of shot in the first place , but what im saying is that there is good statistical probablity that all of the pro players would probably make this same shot with the same odds.

cf snooker>> ^westy:

The thing is its not realy calculable by a human , so its largely chance ,
you would have to ask him to take the same shot 50 or so times and then see how often it goes in the whole to see how much skill comes into it.
Im sure you have to be very good to get to a level where its possibale to get it in with this kind of shot in the first place , but what im saying is that there is good statistical probablity that all of the pro players would probably make this same shot with the same odds.

>> ^bamdrew:

Not that I disagree, but golf is a funny sport; its almost like poker, where you look at it and see statistics and chance, but then there are people who consistently are there on the leader board or in the top 10 at competitions week after week, year after year.
And then even beyond them you get a Jack Nicklaus or a Tiger Woods, where its absolutely surreal to see the control they have over their muscles, taking in so much experience and quickly calculating based on so many variable and constraints how to move a little ball so far away to such a specific location. It can be absolutely remarkable.

>> ^westy:
The thing is its not realy calculable by a human , so its largely chance ,
you would have to ask him to take the same shot 50 or so times and then see how often it goes in the whole to see how much skill comes into it.
Im sure you have to be very good to get to a level where its possibale to get it in with this kind of shot in the first place , but what im saying is that there is good statistical probablity that all of the pro players would probably make this same shot with the same odds.



yah , i was actualy thinking about poker as i was writing , the Thing is that you have a 20% margin for where u can apply skill so u realy have to capitalise on that 20% inorder to turn it from a game of chance to a skill game.

With this the only way to realy test it would be to have all the pro players play the same shot lots of times , or evan have the same guy do it 100+ times to see how often he gets it in , it would be intresting to see. (obvously the better players would do better , but at least it would be a more scentifc test of ones ablity to hit a ball with a stick and determin who is the most skilled at that given day)

the thing is that along with poker its almost impossable to tell if a shot like this or a specifc hand was intended skill or not , allso there are manny factors that let people that are comparative noobs eccell in given situatoins , which is why poker and golf are acccessable sports as it alows noobs to exsperance events that only the proes would normaly get.

I dont think skill is necaceraly important for enjoyment in sport i actualy think peoples obsessoin with specific skills is sumwhat strange as the players ablities are predertermind to a large exstent if not 100% ( upbrining , gentics , parents , diat , enviromental factors , intest in the sport , good at a activity that happens to pay)

Id say most successful events in life are often paired to some degree with luck.