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Before the big bang was discovered, the prevailing view was the steady state theory that proposed an infinite and eternal Universe. Many proponents of this view pointed to it as evidence that Creationism couldn't be true. However, when it was discovered that the Universe had a beginning, even the scientists who found the CMB that led to the discovery were forced to admit that:

"Certainly there was something that set it all off. Certainly, if you
are religious, I can't think of a better theory of the origin of the universe
to match with Genesis"

The Creation account in Genesis is unique in history among the ancient religions, the only such account of a creation from nothing, of the Universe having a definite beginning. Science has affirmed this and showed the bible to be accurate on this most important question.

whats strange with these programs is they try to attach emotion and amazement to how large the universe is or how many stars there are and what have you , but the thing is everything is equally as amazing , i mean its just as amazing how manny or how few atoms are in a toe nail. or how Evan the most "mundane" things operate.

Part of me thinks we need science shows that are edited and presented like this to help inspire children but then another part of me feels like this type of presentation is disingenouse and undermines some aspects of science. at worse they are very inefecent at conveying actual scientific mindset that people should have and apply to the world around them




as an adult watching this program it comes across as very condescending and infantile ( Evan though i think the bbc is aiming this at a wide audeance 14-40 or something , )


I guess astronomers need some glamor as it is probably one of the more detached and tedouse sciences to actually actively partake in ( for the most part)

I'm not against these types of programs they are infintly better than the majority of shit on tv , but i think we need more science programs that inspire people to actively think in a scientific manor about everything.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Before the big bang was discovered, the prevailing view was the steady state theory that proposed an infinite and eternal Universe. Many proponents of this view pointed to it as evidence that Creationism couldn't be true. However, when it was discovered that the Universe had a beginning, even the scientists who found the CMB that led to the discovery were forced to admit that:
"Certainly there was something that set it all off. Certainly, if you
are religious, I can't think of a better theory of the origin of the universe
to match with Genesis"
The Creation account in Genesis is unique in history among the ancient religions, the only such account of a creation from nothing, of the Universe having a definite beginning. Science has affirmed this and showed the bible to be accurate on this most important question.


Pics or it didn't happen.



Or: I would like the meddling christian god to provide a new and recent quote of himself, best if "he" published it in a scientific journal.... IF he is powerful enough to use the scientific method.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Before the big bang was discovered, the prevailing view was the steady state theory that proposed an infinite and eternal Universe. Many proponents of this view pointed to it as evidence that Creationism couldn't be true. However, when it was discovered that the Universe had a beginning, even the scientists who found the CMB that led to the discovery were forced to admit that:
"Certainly there was something that set it all off. Certainly, if you
are religious, I can't think of a better theory of the origin of the universe
to match with Genesis"
The Creation account in Genesis is unique in history among the ancient religions, the only such account of a creation from nothing, of the Universe having a definite beginning. Science has affirmed this and showed the bible to be accurate on this most important question.


You are left with the issue of who created god if things cnt be created from nothing or have to start at some piont.



Also why would you take the bible to be the word of god Evan if it was originally its been edited and changed by so Manny people you can no longer know what is and what is not. on-top of that its self contradictory in places and everything within it is consistent with the knowlage and "science" of the time it was written.

>> ^westy:
>> ^shinyblurry:
Before the big bang was discovered, the prevailing view was the steady state theory that proposed an infinite and eternal Universe. Many proponents of this view pointed to it as evidence that Creationism couldn't be true. However, when it was discovered that the Universe had a beginning, even the scientists who found the CMB that led to the discovery were forced to admit that:
"Certainly there was something that set it all off. Certainly, if you
are religious, I can't think of a better theory of the origin of the universe
to match with Genesis"
The Creation account in Genesis is unique in history among the ancient religions, the only such account of a creation from nothing, of the Universe having a definite beginning. Science has affirmed this and showed the bible to be accurate on this most important question.

You are left with the issue of who created god if things cnt be created from nothing or have to start at some piont.
Also why would you take the bible to be the word of god Evan if it was originally its been edited and changed by so Manny people you can no longer know what is and what is not. on-top of that its self contradictory in places and everything within it is consistent with the knowlage and "science" of the time it was written.


God is eternal, so no one created Him. Because the Universe has a beginning, it points to something eternal, an uncaused cause. That's what God is, essentially. Since nothing can come from nothing, there had to have always been something.

Also, we have the original manuscripts the original church used. Around 25,000 for the New Testament alone. We know exactly what the original bibles said. Here is a good article on why the bible is reliable and trustworthy:

http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99&Itemid=43

Shiny, I like you, but that "article" is one of the least scientific pieces of fiction I've ever read.

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