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Watching the game here in Europe my friends and I all noticed that when England scored, the replay was shown about 20 times in the next ten minutes. Ten minutes is about how long it took them to actually show this goal again for the first time. None of the stations here have been subtle with their...bias.

>> ^Morganth:

Watching the game here in Europe my friends and I all noticed that when England scored, the replay was shown about 20 times in the next ten minutes. Ten minutes is about how long it took them to actually show this goal again for the first time. None of the stations here have been subtle with their...bias.


I was watching that game "here in Europe" and that was not the case. They couldn't show the goal right away as the game continued so quickly, but it wasn't ten minutes. More like a minute. And after that we saw multiple replays.

It's not biased to prioritize the live action over replays.

That was pretty bad.

I'd suggest the game was fixed, but then that goalie may end up garroted in a back alley somewhere.

>> ^Morganth:

Watching the game here in Europe my friends and I all noticed that when England scored, the replay was shown about 20 times in the next ten minutes. Ten minutes is about how long it took them to actually show this goal again for the first time. None of the stations here have been subtle with their...bias.


I don't know what channel you were watching, so i can't call bullshit on that. Where i was watching it from, i saw plenty of replays of both goals.

I might suggest that the reason you saw more replays of the first goal is because it was a display of footballing skill rather than this goal which was a display of an arsehole failing to pick up a ball travelling at 5mph. It was hardly eventful. They tend to show replays of stuff that's good. Or stuff that's comically bad. But this drew just pulled up just short of comically bad, resting evenly at tragically bad.

For the first time i can genuinely say without a shadow of sarcasm that my nan could have saved that goal.

Trollball is trollin'.

I'm a football newb. What's with the constant droning horns in the background. At first I thought it was a psychological thing to use against the opposing team but it is non-stop.

Great show of skill from a few players on both sides that game. Anyone else notice Beckham's "I'm going to fucking kill you" look after the keeper let that goal in?

Dannym3141, I was watching on vtm, a Flemish station in Belgium.

Ajkido, it's soccer. The live action never stop for commercials. So when they choose to show one goal over and over again, and not another even though the game is tied, it's bias. Their half-time commentators (who were Belgian, not English) were all sitting at a tabled draped in a giant English flag.

>> ^VoodooV:

I'm a football newb. What's with the constant droning horns in the background. At first I thought it was a psychological thing to use against the opposing team but it is non-stop.


Drove me up a freaking wall. Apparently, they're vuvuzelas which are big horns that South Africans blow at matches. I imagine all the World Cup visitors wanted them too.

I hope they carry on like this, then it won't be so long before everyone shuts the fuck up about the stupid world cup.

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>> ^Morganth:

Dannym3141, I was watching on vtm, a Flemish station in Belgium.
Ajkido, it's soccer. The live action never stop for commercials. So when they choose to show one goal over and over again, and not another even though the game is tied, it's bias. Their half-time commentators (who were Belgian, not English) were all sitting at a tabled draped in a giant English flag.


Call me crazy, but theyre likely to show the goal where the defence was sliced open by the non-scoring striker allowing the controversial captain to score a good goal rather than the one where the goalie dropped it.

Shit happens.

It's the fucking vuvuzela. South Africa pretends it's tradition, but it's apparently something that was ivented about 30 years ago, I guess by a marketing dude.

It's a monotonous buzzing that continues for the full 90 minutes. Some channels (like the BBC) appear to manage their sound levels reasonably, but the Dutch broadcasters have been unable to cope, and the commentators are frequently drowned out.

I don't like football as it is, but this makes it totally impossible to even watch it in the background. I'll just count the number of cheers and cries in the street when Oranje is on.

Had the US/England game muted for its entirety, and most likely will for any other games I watch.
It's unfortunate, all I can do atm is: not watch the games, watch the games and go completely insane or watch the games muted.

>> ^harry:

It's the fucking vuvuzela. South Africa pretends it's tradition, but it's apparently something that was ivented about 30 years ago, I guess by a marketing dude.
It's a monotonous buzzing that continues for the full 90 minutes. Some channels (like the BBC) appear to manage their sound levels reasonably, but the Dutch broadcasters have been unable to cope, and the commentators are frequently drowned out.
I don't like football as it is, but this makes it totally impossible to even watch it in the background. I'll just count the number of cheers and cries in the street when Oranje is on.


Yes South Africa...collectively as a country is pretending that they like something as a tradition. Firstly it doesn't have to be old for it to be a tradition. Secondly you can't tell people how to enjoy a game in their own fucking country, so shut the fuck up.

>> ^robbersdog49:

I hope they carry on like this, then it won't be so long before everyone shuts the fuck up about the stupid world cup.


Did you seriously click to watch a World Cup video link... scroll all the way down to "Submit New Comment" just to be a douche bag?

tra·di·tion   [truh-dish-uhn] Show IPA –noun

1. the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, esp. by word of mouth or by practice

2. something that is handed down

3. a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting

You were saying about old? You don't have to tell people how to enjoy it, but they shouldn't expect anything else on the world stage to ever go back until they shut the fuck up.
>> ^Yogi:

>> ^harry:
It's the fucking vuvuzela. South Africa pretends it's tradition, but it's apparently something that was ivented about 30 years ago, I guess by a marketing dude.
It's a monotonous buzzing that continues for the full 90 minutes. Some channels (like the BBC) appear to manage their sound levels reasonably, but the Dutch broadcasters have been unable to cope, and the commentators are frequently drowned out.
I don't like football as it is, but this makes it totally impossible to even watch it in the background. I'll just count the number of cheers and cries in the street when Oranje is on.

Yes South Africa...collectively as a country is pretending that they like something as a tradition. Firstly it doesn't have to be old for it to be a tradition. Secondly you can't tell people how to enjoy a game in their own fucking country, so shut the fuck up.

>> ^Throbbin:

That was pretty bad.
I'd suggest the game was fixed, but then that goalie may end up garroted in a back alley somewhere.
can you really "fix" clumsiness?
and can you really "fix" the skill of Tim Howard?

>> ^Unsung_Hero:

>> ^robbersdog49:
I hope they carry on like this, then it won't be so long before everyone shuts the fuck up about the stupid world cup.

Did you seriously click to watch a World Cup video link... scroll all the way down to "Submit New Comment" just to be a douche bag?


Apparently so.

>> ^Sigh:

tra·di·tion   [truh-dish-uhn] Show IPA –noun
1. the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, esp. by word of mouth or by practice
2. something that is handed down
3. a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting
You were saying about old? You don't have to tell people how to enjoy it, but they shouldn't expect anything else on the world stage to ever go back until they shut the fuck up.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^harry:
It's the fucking vuvuzela. South Africa pretends it's tradition, but it's apparently something that was ivented about 30 years ago, I guess by a marketing dude.
It's a monotonous buzzing that continues for the full 90 minutes. Some channels (like the BBC) appear to manage their sound levels reasonably, but the Dutch broadcasters have been unable to cope, and the commentators are frequently drowned out.
I don't like football as it is, but this makes it totally impossible to even watch it in the background. I'll just count the number of cheers and cries in the street when Oranje is on.

Yes South Africa...collectively as a country is pretending that they like something as a tradition. Firstly it doesn't have to be old for it to be a tradition. Secondly you can't tell people how to enjoy a game in their own fucking country, so shut the fuck up.



A father buys a vuvuzela at a game...he hands it down to his son...now it's tradition. You mother fuckers think you can go into another fucking country MOVE out the indigenous population and set up a soccer tournament and then tell the locals how to fucking behave. You're simply what's wrong with the fucking world trying to force others to conform to your standards...for what? So you can watch a bunch of little games on TV while you sit on your fat fucking ass. Fuck you, you don't deserve to live.

The vuvuzela is gotten out of hand though even FIFA is considering banning it from future games.

I understand if they played it like when something cool happens but not fro the entirety of a 90 minutes game.

First off, it's FOOTBALL.

Second anyone using the vuvuzela is a complete twit. The sound drowns out the reaction of the crowd to events on the field so you never hear those collective moments of wonder when something great happens. The atmosphere generated by singing and chants is lost. And players can't hear themselves. And if they don't enjoy themselves that translates into poorer football.

As Farhad says the organisers are having to think about this very hard because it's ruining the broadcast of the games for millions of people.

And the World Cup is not about morons blowing plastic trumpest incessantly. They could ban it on health and safety grounds as it's probably too loud but in South Africa that's probably not considered a big deal.

Oh and Robert Green. Dropped. Or he should be. None of our keepers are brilliant but David James is probably the best overall.

>> ^robbersdog49:

>> ^Unsung_Hero:
>> ^robbersdog49:
I hope they carry on like this, then it won't be so long before everyone shuts the fuck up about the stupid world cup.

Did you seriously click to watch a World Cup video link... scroll all the way down to "Submit New Comment" just to be a douche bag?

Apparently so.


It was a rhetorical question. Given your maturity level, I guess it doesn't surprise me.

I'm going to go to a baseball game and buy a soda for my friend. Look! I started a new tradition. You are the kind of stupid your mother should have swallowed. Who the fuck do you think you are. Oh that's right, some moron who sits at home commenting on things he doesn't understand from his fat fucking ass. Fuck you, you don't deserve to live. What an ass...

>> ^Yogi:


A father buys a vuvuzela at a game...he hands it down to his son...now it's tradition. You mother fuckers think you can go into another fucking country MOVE out the indigenous population and set up a soccer tournament and then tell the locals how to fucking behave. You're simply what's wrong with the fucking world trying to force others to conform to your standards...for what? So you can watch a bunch of little games on TV while you sit on your fat fucking ass. Fuck you, you don't deserve to live.

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OMG Cat was watching the match too

First of all, you HOST the World Cup, it is a privilege countries FIGHT for. You host this for an estimated viewership of 2 BILLION PEOPLE, almost 1/3rd of the WORLD'S POPULATION. When you accept the responsibility to host a World Cup, you INVITE the world to your country.

Second of all, when your local culture completely and utterly destroys the culture of football (as the rest of the world understands it), the common decency would be to understand this and accommodate the world and football before your own local interests, you are a HOST, good hosts put their VISTORS before themselves.

Third of all, reducing viewership is basically tying your own noose. Pissing off advertisers is never a wise move, the World Cup is no more immune to this than any other event.

Fourth of all, generally you're supposed to highlight your country's strengths and tourism when you host such an event. Not turn off millions of people from even considering a visit, all from one very silly over-bearing issue. Do you really want your country's image tarnished from a little fucking plastic horn? I hear virtually nothing about South Africa, all I heard in the Beijing Olympics was "China great host this", "China great host that".

Fifth of all, if you don't watch football (even just for the World Cup), please shut the fuck up, as you have no appreciation for the issue at hand. I'm sick of tolerance nazi's butting in to the discussion with no appreciation of the complaint, all you can do is scream blue murder.

Many South African comments are in the nature of "This is OUR World Cup, if you don't like it, leave/don't watch!". Yes well people are taking those options and if the numbers are big enough; The only thing that's going to hurt is African nations holding the World Cup in the future. Both in selection and future attendance.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Sigh:
tra·di·tion   [truh-dish-uhn] Show IPA –noun
1. the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, esp. by word of mouth or by practice
2. something that is handed down
3. a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting
You were saying about old? You don't have to tell people how to enjoy it, but they shouldn't expect anything else on the world stage to ever go back until they shut the fuck up.
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^harry:
It's the fucking vuvuzela. South Africa pretends it's tradition, but it's apparently something that was ivented about 30 years ago, I guess by a marketing dude.
It's a monotonous buzzing that continues for the full 90 minutes. Some channels (like the BBC) appear to manage their sound levels reasonably, but the Dutch broadcasters have been unable to cope, and the commentators are frequently drowned out.
I don't like football as it is, but this makes it totally impossible to even watch it in the background. I'll just count the number of cheers and cries in the street when Oranje is on.

Yes South Africa...collectively as a country is pretending that they like something as a tradition. Firstly it doesn't have to be old for it to be a tradition. Secondly you can't tell people how to enjoy a game in their own fucking country, so shut the fuck up.


A father buys a vuvuzela at a game...he hands it down to his son...now it's tradition. You mother fuckers think you can go into another fucking country MOVE out the indigenous population and set up a soccer tournament and then tell the locals how to fucking behave. You're simply what's wrong with the fucking world trying to force others to conform to your standards...for what? So you can watch a bunch of little games on TV while you sit on your fat fucking ass. Fuck you, you don't deserve to live.

>> ^yellowc:

First of all, you HOST the World Cup, it is a privilege countries FIGHT for. You host this for an estimated viewership of 2 BILLION PEOPLE, almost 1/3rd of the WORLD'S POPULATION. When you accept the responsibility to host a World Cup, you INVITE the world to your country.
Second of all, when your local culture completely and utterly destroys the culture of football (as the rest of the world understands it), the common decency would be to understand this and accommodate the world and football before your own local interests, you are a HOST, good hosts put their VISTORS before themselves.
Third of all, reducing viewership is basically tying your own noose. Pissing off advertisers is never a wise move, the World Cup is no more immune to this than any other event.
Fourth of all, generally you're supposed to highlight your country's strengths and tourism when you host such an event. Not turn off millions of people from even considering a visit, all from one very silly over-bearing issue. Do you really want your country's image tarnished from a little fucking plastic horn? I hear virtually nothing about South Africa, all I heard in the Beijing Olympics was "China great host this", "China great host that".
Fifth of all, if you don't watch football (even just for the World Cup), please shut the fuck up, as you have no appreciation for the issue at hand. I'm sick of tolerance nazi's butting in to the discussion with no appreciation of the complaint, all you can do is scream blue murder.
Many South African comments are in the nature of "This is OUR World Cup, if you don't like it, leave/don't watch!". Yes well people are taking those options and if the numbers are big enough; The only thing that's going to hurt is African nations holding the World Cup in the future. Both in selection and future attendance.


Some good points there. What the hosts might need reminding about is how this World Cup will be remembered. Currently the football's not great (and that might well be due partly to the vuvuzelas themselves) and so you'd hope the atmosphere would make up for it. These trumpets don't create atmosphere - I learned today they are primarily there to distract opposition players and obviously they do that very well.

The fact is that regardless of how bad the organisers screw this up, the World Cup is not coming back to Africa for sometime. Next up is Brazil and no African country is bidding for 2018 or 2022. Given that it's 44 years since England hosted I'm guessing it could be a similar gap for African countries as I don't know many who would be better equipped that South Africa.

>> ^Unsung_Hero:

>> ^robbersdog49:
>> ^Unsung_Hero:
>> ^robbersdog49:
I hope they carry on like this, then it won't be so long before everyone shuts the fuck up about the stupid world cup.

Did you seriously click to watch a World Cup video link... scroll all the way down to "Submit New Comment" just to be a douche bag?

Apparently so.

It was a rhetorical question. Given your maturity level, I guess it doesn't surprise me.


I'm sorry, did I upset you? Ooops, how rude of me.

>> ^Deano:

Some good points there. What the hosts might need reminding about is how this World Cup will be remembered. Currently the football's not great (and that might well be due partly to the vuvuzelas themselves) and so you'd hope the atmosphere would make up for it. These trumpets don't create atmosphere - I learned today they are primarily there to distract opposition players and obviously they do that very well.
The fact is that regardless of how bad the organisers screw this up, the World Cup is not coming back to Africa for sometime. Next up is Brazil and no African country is bidding for 2018 or 2022. Given that it's 44 years since England hosted I'm guessing it could be a similar gap for African countries as I don't know many who would be better equipped that South Africa.


I'd like to add that it's not African fans that blow those horns in games like Netherlands - Denmark. It's our fans who do it now and they won't really care if they're banned since they only know about vuvzelas since last week. I agree that it should be Africas World Cup and not our way forced upon them. That's why I'd say ban them for games without African participation. That way they can celebrate their games the way they normally do and we'll still have our atmosphere come the quarter finals.

FIFA screwed up big time here. Giving the WC to SA was questionable from the getgo, but we knew about the vuvuzelas since last summer's Confed Cup, and they did absolutely NOTHING. No noise cancellation, no filtering, nothing! Italy supporters had their own song in 2006. I bet they sang it yesterday, but I'll never know. England fans are known for creating a great atmosphere, singing their national anthem during the game. They probably did that during the game vs the US, but we will never know. It's a shame really, because this is what people will remember aout this World Cup. Ask people if the WC should go to Africa again and they'll say no. Ask 'em why and they'll say one word: vuvuzela.