Looks like he stopped because he was following too close and wanted to give him a piece of his mind. -- Big mistake.

Two things:

1) The guy with the camera opened his car door. Looks like they both wanted a fight.
2) In my opinion, the guy with the camera was driving rudely, although it didn't warrant this reckless display from the lead driver. The lead driver was passing the other cars at a reasonable rate. The left lane is not an infinite speed lane, it is a passing lane. If it is being properly used for passing by another driver then too bad. You can't always have a clear road in front of you, so stop tailgating.

I was about to correct you on it being the Inner lane when I realized you are British and this video content possibly is as well.

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What a complete dickhead. Serious anger issues if you stop ON A FREEWAY to do something like this, what a dick. I hate tailgaters as much as the next person, and a few little taps on the breaks to demonstrate they're being a serious dick is enough, but NEVER STOP ON A FREEWAY... In the fast lane too, what an absolute and utter moron. He's incredibly lucky this didn't end up as an enormous pile up. And I really would not be getting out of my car in this situation except maybe to quickly get on the other side of the barrier. Another car can very easily come smashing up your arse again just like that one did.

It's not in Britain because they're on the right side of the road (Britain drives on the left), with the driver on the left of the vehicle. So in this country they would be in the fast lane by being on the left.

Regardless why they stopped: To have a conversation, engine failure, or to avoid running over a baby - every driver is responsible to maintain their own safe stopping distance.

The asshole crashing through the side seems not have been looking at all let alone following too close to stop safely in wet weather.

I'm amazed anyone thinks it's appropriate to assume the people who stopped were at fault?
Sure, not ideal a place - but within their rights.

It looks like he did a brake check on the tailgater and when he got bumped he stopped right there. You know, I don't think there is traffic law in the US against stopping like he did and in fact only the tailgater and the one who crashed into them both would be charged with failure to reduce speed. I'd love to know more.

i wouldn't call that tailgating, not by Irish driving standards anyway!

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There absolutely are laws prohibiting stopping in travel lanes. The driver who stopped his car to confront the tailgater is almost definitely both criminally liable for reckless driving, and civilly liable for all damages caused by his negligence.

Lawyered.>> ^zor:

It looks like he did a brake check on the tailgater and when he got bumped he stopped right there. You know, I don't think there is traffic law in the US against stopping like he did and in fact only the tailgater and the one who crashed into them both would be charged with failure to reduce speed. I'd love to know more.

^ ^ he is 100% right. The guy who stopped will be charged for all of that. And that is not tailgating. If you think that is tailgating you are a defensive driver. I didn't even know what was wrong with the driving until I read the comments and saw tailgating, and then had to go back and rewatch it to find the tailgating...I'm still looking.

>> ^raverman:

Regardless why they stopped: To have a conversation, engine failure, or to avoid running over a baby - every driver is responsible to maintain their own safe stopping distance.
The asshole crashing through the side seems not have been looking at all let alone following too close to stop safely in wet weather.
I'm amazed anyone thinks it's appropriate to assume the people who stopped were at fault?
Sure, not ideal a place - but within their rights.


In pure legal sense, yes, the guy who ran into them is at fault, the one who runs into the back of the stopped ones is because they should have given enough space to avoid traffic incidents in front of them, indeed. And effectively they hit parked cars.

BUT, not stopping for an insanely STUPID reason in the FAST LANE of a freeway would have made none of this near fatal shit happen. Seriously, some people really need to look at themselves and their anger management.

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Who called time shift, thats just stupid and ignorant.

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I don't know, I despise tailgaters, and even do the pump-fake from time to time, but it really didn't look to me like the camera guy was tailgating - unless the wide-angle lens was throwing off the perspective or something. And if he was tailgating it was only for a few seconds because the guy in front was slowing down. At least give him time to adjust his distance before 'roid raging.

Since he has a dash cam it must be Russia. Lol. In fact it is St. Petersberg. The traffic sign they pass under says Murmansk Hwy 4.5km.

To my mind the cam guy is not significantly tailgating until the lead guy starts dicking around and I'm not sure there was even any contact. But regardless stopping in a travel lane especially in traffic like this is a really dumbass move.

I guess if you're dumb enough to stop like this you're dumb enough to assume that everybody behind you will stop safely.

Edit: Of course dash cam guy was pretty dumb to open his door without checking behind so I guess there is enough dumb to go all around.

>> ^artful_codger:

i wouldn't call that tailgating, not by Irish driving standards anyway!


Yeah it really isn't tailgating, not up to California standards. I noticed going to other places people getting bent outa shape when my dad drives who's used to driving in California. One guy pursued us for miles and tried to stop us changing lanes because he felt we had tailgated him.

Look I don't care about the rest of the states, just fucking drive. If you don't like someone riding your ass then move the fuck over it's not hard.

Think guy in front could have used a dose of being hit by a car to cure his anger issues. Nothing will cure you of making stupid decisions like getting run over by a car when you make one.

Guy in back was maybe a little too close, but he wasn't tailgating. Maybe he had his brights on or something but hell if the guy is that annoying, switch lanes. It's not like the guy in the lead didn't have opportunity to slide over a lane on multiple occasions.

Guy with camera never hit him, he kept letting off his brakes and moving forward over and over.

Unless guy with camera thought dude in front was having a heart attack or something and he threw his door open to get out to help...he knew he was doing something irritating and was itching for a fight.

So.....both of them are dumb, guy crashing into both of them was probably just trying to do the world a favor. Two pricks with one car if you will.

Only way to deal with a tailgater is to use the handbrake. Don't give them a chance to see your brake lights.

ps. I don't think the guy in the video is tailgating.

I would have just hit my signal light, got in the middle lane, and let the guy pass. So much more simple.

I was tought to allow 3 seconds distance between yourself and the car you're following in regular driving conditions. More for wet, or low visibility. That said, I think people generally don't think 2 seconds is a problem.

Through the latter half of this video he's following a second or less behind. That's absolutely tailgating and if the lead driver legitimately had to slam on the breaks, the trailing driver absolutely would have hit him.

All three drivers were at fault to some degree here. The tailgater was being an ass and definitely following too close, the rearmost was following way behind (based on delay until impact) but wasn't paying an ounce of attention. And the lead driver WILLFULLY created an incredibly dangerous situation.

I see no tailgating here. He has not been following the car long enough for one. It is clear that as the driver pulls up behind him, the guy in front taps his break and it looks like its a fairly congested line of cars. Well no one slams on their break in these, they generally try and adjust their distance by letting off the gas which is what the cam-driver here was doing. It is hard to see but cars infront of him may also have stopped, or maybe he hit something on the road and went to stop?

Not enough information, but I can safely rule talegating as the problem, if this guy stops in the road cause someone is on his bumper for less then 10 seconds then he would have been dead long ago.

I'm pretty sure that the guy in front wasn't bumped.. it was close, but it wasn't bumped... and there definitely isn't any tailgating. The guy didn't hit the car in front, even when the car in front was breaking and accelerating seemingly at random.

I don't know how anyone could consider that the guy with the camera was driving eratically. I'm not sure i would have stopped, and if i would then it would have been on the hard shoulder. The guy behind is also probably at fault, no doubt, but i have to say at those speeds and on a motorway where you are used to things happening at high speeds, it can be very deceptive to have something stationary in your path.

Finally, the guy behind could even have been going to overtake from behind a few vehicles, or from a few lanes over, behind a van perhaps and not have even had chance to see the stationary vehicle. I'm not saying it's likely but until we see a boot-cam we can't be sure.

Wow, now I know why I get tailgated so much if you all are serious that the camera guy wasn't tailgating. I was counting time between passing poles and it was most of the time anywhere from 1.5 to 2 seconds. There should be a 3 second gap when following someone to allow for safe stopping distance, or at least that's how I was taught to drive. This guy was definitely riding his ass a bit IMO. But not enough to warrant stopping in the middle of the freeway.

This is how my Honda got totaled a couple years ago, some idiot in the slow lane "thought someone was swerving into her lane" and stopped right there in the middle of the freeway. I was the last of 2 other cars in the accident so I got half the blame. Not sure what happened to the idiot who stopped in front of us. And yes, I was following at a safe distance but was looking in my blind spot before switching lanes to haha, avoid an accident.

>> ^Contagion21:

All three drivers were at fault to some degree here. The tailgater was being an ass and definitely following too close, the rearmost was following way behind (based on delay until impact) but wasn't paying an ounce of attention. And the lead driver WILLFULLY created an incredibly dangerous situation.


none of us is as dumb as all of us.

Look at the nasty dirty roads and cars. This is obviously Russia. After the crash dashcam driver came out and started shouting in Russian "what are you doing" to the guy in front...
Russian road laws might be different from US, so don't necessarily judge who was at fault.

The best bit? The go out and stand in the wreckage like it wouldn't happen again!
Idiots.

It was tailgating. In that weather there is not nearly enough stopping distance between those cars. I mean, its not extreme and most people never leave enough room, but still, if the driver in front had to slam on his brakes in an actual emergency stop I'd wager it would have ended in a pileup.

Still a moron, but hey, its Russia.

Why am I so not surprised car #3 was a Celica?

Definitely tailgating. I was counting only about 1-1.5 seconds of following time for most of the video. As others have pointed out, the MINIMUM time cushion is 3 seconds, longer in poor weather or at night.

Tailgating? Looked like perfectly normal city traffic to me. Either way, you have to have an empty fucking skull to do something as insanely stupid as coming to a complete stop in the passing lane of a freeway.

There is no tailgating in this video. I personally follow further behind people than this guy, but I see these distances every day as normal drivers. I call total fault on the front most vehicle.

>> ^Duckman33:

Wow, now I know why I get tailgated so much if you all are serious that the camera guy wasn't tailgating. I was counting time between passing poles and it was most of the time anywhere from 1.5 to 2 seconds. There should be a 3 second gap when following someone to allow for safe stopping distance


Lol, 2 seconds is a safe stoping distance.. 3 ask for someone to pull in front of you.

Anyone who thinks this is tailgating.. spend some time in a pop. >1000 town

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>> ^Duckman33:
Wow, now I know why I get tailgated so much if you all are serious that the camera guy wasn't tailgating. I was counting time between passing poles and it was most of the time anywhere from 1.5 to 2 seconds. There should be a 3 second gap when following someone to allow for safe stopping distance

Lol, 2 seconds is a safe stoping distance.. 3 ask for someone to pull in front of you.
Anyone who thinks this is tailgating.. spend some time in a pop. >1000 town


http://www.smartmotorist.com/traffic-and-safety-guideline/maintain-a-safe-following-distance-the-3-second-rule.html

Technically, yes this is tailgating. Even in Boston this is tailgating, but that doesn't stop us from doing it. The 3 second rule should always be followed!

My dad used to downshift and engine brake so you won't lose control of the vehicle by pulling the e-brake, but also get the effect of slowing down without brake lights. It usually does the trick of scaring the a$$holes behind you!

>> ^jmd:

>> ^Duckman33:
Wow, now I know why I get tailgated so much if you all are serious that the camera guy wasn't tailgating. I was counting time between passing poles and it was most of the time anywhere from 1.5 to 2 seconds. There should be a 3 second gap when following someone to allow for safe stopping distance

Lol, 2 seconds is a safe stoping distance.. 3 ask for someone to pull in front of you.
Anyone who thinks this is tailgating.. spend some time in a pop. >1000 town


I've lived in four US cities with population over one million. From 38 seconds on (the bit of driving that triggered the anger from the lead driver) I would definitely call this tailgating. The camera is fairly wide-angle, as well, so I think the cars are closer than they appear.

Regardless, the car with the camera _barely_ stopped in time, and the lead driver could have had a legitimate reason to need to slow down. All it would take is one puddle, icy patch, or slightly less effective brakes for this to have been an accident.

Why drive like a douche and risk injury to yourself an others when you can slow down by _one freaking second_ instead?

There is NOTHING wide angle about that camera.. hell my phone is probably more wide angle then what ever is being used here. The car stopped just fine.. no skidding.. hell he didn't even need to vear off to the side. I'm sure you're all goddesses on the road, but as one who has a perfectly safe driving record for 17 years and drives an hour and a half on I95 5 days a week, there wasn't anything unsafe about what the driver did. -_-

I drive around chicago and just because most people tailgate doesn't mean it is safe or that it is not tailgating. Driving too close is way more dangerous than speeding and since 90% are doing it why don't the cops ticket people for reckless driving? Must be harder to prove or something?

Plus nearly all traffic jams would be avoided if people kept a better distance so I am a bit surprised at so many comments in favour of the terrible status quo. Every time I drive in or out of the city I hit several traffic jams that have no apparent cause. People would rather drive dangerously than avoid traffic jams. Those are the two options around major cities. Drive dangerously or get there faster. Most people choose to have more traffic jams than to be safe for some stupid reason.

-Karl

>> ^jmd:

There is NOTHING wide angle about that camera..

Seriously? You can see the bend in the horizon line and the bridge supports. That's plain old standard fisheye. Not sure how much it affects the ability to judge distance near the center of the camera, but it's there, your brain just filters out the distortion after watching for a few seconds.

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