Pastor says; "it's indoctrination, children are in their formative years, and you start introducing sexuality into their young impressionable minds, you start changing our culture." Oh, unlike the indoctrination of their young impressionable minds into dogmatic, medieval, religion which, if not stopped, will END our culture.

I live in Atlanta, a predominantly black city, and I can tell you that the black community in particular does not care for gays. I'm not sure why, exactly, but I think it's a cultural thing.

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This is unfortunately quite true from what I've seen. I liked this comment from YT:

"It never ceases to amaze me when blacks take such a stand on gay issues. It is like they have selective memory. It hasn't been that long since people were making the EXACT same arguments (find me a single argument used now that wasn't back then) to marginalize blacks."

>> ^shuac:

I live in Atlanta, a predominantly black city, and I can tell you that the black community in particular does not care for gays. I'm not sure why, exactly, but I think it's a cultural thing.

>> ^hpqp:

This is unfortunately quite true from what I've seen. I liked this comment from YT:
"It never ceases to amaze me when blacks take such a stand on gay issues. It is like they have selective memory. It hasn't been that long since people were making the EXACT same arguments (find me a single argument used now that wasn't back then) to marginalize blacks."
>> ^shuac:
I live in Atlanta, a predominantly black city, and I can tell you that the black community in particular does not care for gays. I'm not sure why, exactly, but I think it's a cultural thing.



Kind of feels like it's a case of, "Everyone needs to feel better than some other group." Hypocrisy at it's finest.

What I found distressing is that the men asked to leave said they were just listening. If we take them at their word (how did anyone know that they were there in support of SB48? They must have said something to somebody) that they weren't disruptive, well, that is just wrong.

>> ^A10anis:
Pastor says; "it's indoctrination, children are in their formative years, and you start introducing sexuality into their young impressionable minds, you start changing our culture." Oh, unlike the indoctrination of their young impressionable minds into dogmatic, medieval, religion which, if not stopped, will END our culture.


Um, you do realize religion IS culture? It is a universal of all cultures--just like money and government and mental illness (1/4 of everyone...) You could say it is in our genes and we must unlearn it... Now, the different types of religions is something to debate...

But let's talk about why homosexuality has a bad rap... Homosexuality itself got a very bad rap because of one little nation that practiced it religiously... Rome... Rome was one big, gay death machine that the world hated so much that it now shuns even the good practices of the Empire. Think of the Middle East, nations that particularly had problems with Rome...yup, they really hate gay and lesbians...

Funny that Christianity became popular in Rome when those crimes were happening...ironic or just cause-and-effect...

>> ^shuac:
I live in Atlanta, a predominantly black city, and I can tell you that the black community in particular does not care for gays. I'm not sure why, exactly, but I think it's a cultural thing.


Sigh---it's because "gay" is effeminate and the black culture demands children that can go it alone (Without fathers) who are strong (Able to beat some ass) and are spiteful of the weak... @hpqp too.

@Lawdeedaw: this is all I have to say about male homosexuality and manliness

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^A10anis:
Pastor says; "it's indoctrination, children are in their formative years, and you start introducing sexuality into their young impressionable minds, you start changing our culture." Oh, unlike the indoctrination of their young impressionable minds into dogmatic, medieval, religion which, if not stopped, will END our culture.

Um, you do realize religion IS culture? It is a universal of all cultures--just like money and government and mental illness (1/4 of everyone...) You could say it is in our genes and we must unlearn it... Now, the different types of religions is something to debate...
But let's talk about why homosexuality has a bad rap... Homosexuality itself got a very bad rap because of one little nation that practiced it religiously... Rome... Rome was one big, gay death machine that the world hated so much that it now shuns even the good practices of the Empire. Think of the Middle East, nations that particularly had problems with Rome...yup, they really hate gay and lesbians...
Funny that Christianity became popular in Rome when those crimes were happening...ironic or just cause-and-effect...


Wrroonngg!

Roman society looked down on homosexuals.

They were seen as shameful and mostly had to hide themselves. The dictator Sula was most likely homosexual. Even though he had complete power over the Roman state he hid his sexuality until after he stepped down from power.

Ancient Greece on the other hand...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^A10anis:
Pastor says; "it's indoctrination, children are in their formative years, and you start introducing sexuality into their young impressionable minds, you start changing our culture." Oh, unlike the indoctrination of their young impressionable minds into dogmatic, medieval, religion which, if not stopped, will END our culture.

Funny that Christianity became popular in Rome when those crimes were happening...ironic or just cause-and-effect...


Law, what are the crimes you're referring to here? Homosexuality itself? Or the ostracism of homosexuals?

Just curious what your position is.

Buttsex caused the fall of Rome.

Fucking disgusting.

@Boise_Lib

Now now, don't say I am wrong quiet yet. I just read up on Rome and have the advantage here (I read like fucking two days’ worth...)

Nero was more than gay (He married a man as his husband and a man as his wife...see slit in lieu of vagina,) and Caligula (Who was fucking a man while in the arena in front of everyone, then had that man beheaded during climax) was bi and Tiberius (Who was fucking Caligula after murdering his family) was bi and the typical soldier, and...wait, yeah, there were many more. Basically, 14 out of 15 were gay or gay-ish at least. By that I mean some were open, some closed. Commodus? Yeah, gay...

(Most were simply bi just to have a son btw. Otherwise it would have been just man on man.)

The whole conflict with homosexuality came in later--after the Roman Catholic Church gained power... Now, that's not saying it wasn't against the law in the early days--but that's the same as adultery, yet then orgies were common even though they were illegal... let's pretend the law doesn't matter here---because it didn't...

Marcus Aurelius was straight at least...

And yes, this was the early Rome, when it was brutal, but then that's what I was talking about when I said the world hated them. Later, yes, later they began to hate homosexual behavior. But then they went through the phase where prostitutes could fuck any man they wanted, even while wed and in plain sight, and the Christian empress would have the man executed if he said something...

You get the point. Rome was confused but definitely bi with a leaning more towards homosexuality--despite their "laws."

@shuac I meant the crimes of Rome itself, not homosexuals. It's kind of hard to forgive a nation that captured and enslaved your city and then raped your male children with abandon.

@hpqp
I don't think homosexuality is girly, but that's their reasoning... Sad, so sad because it is not true.

Fine I didn't mean that...lets just stop teaching Black History then...Fuck Black History, my children don't need to know how evil white people used ta wuz!

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have said Wrroonngg so quickly--but you presume that your readings about Rome are more extensive than mine.

Nero, Caligula and many later Emperors are examples of the human psyche let loose. Psychopaths with no restrictions on their behavior.

The Roman Republic lasted for almost 500 years--during which time--homosexuality was looked on as a vice and shameful behavior. Emperor Augustus imposed strict modesty and morality edicts--including homosexual activities--which didn't apply to him. So even in the later, Empire Era, Rome was hardly be considered, "one big, gay death machine."

"Marcus Aurelius was straight at least..." This one gave me a laugh.


The Love Letters of Emperor Marcus Aurelius and Marcus Cornelius Fronto
Excerpts from My Dear Boy: Gay Love Letters through the Centuries (1998), Edited by Rictor Norton

From Marcus Cornelliius Fronto to Marcus Aurelius

Your lover, too, as they say, composes some amatory writings about you in the hope of enticing you with this bait, if with no other, and attracting you to himself and catching you; but such things are a disgrace and an insult and a sort of licentious cry, the outcome of stinging lust, such as those of wild beasts and fed cattle, that from sexual desire bellow or neigh or low or howl. Like to these are the lyrics of lovers. If, therefore, you submit yourself to your lover to enjoy where and when he pleases, awaiting neither time that is fitting nor leisure nor privacy, then, like a beast in the frenzy of desire, will he make straight for you and be eager to go to it not the least ashamed. . . .