@hatsix
so, u don't trust doctors, but that's "proper" medicine, and anything outside of that isn't really worth trying, cause some people you know had a bad experience, and now they can't get surgery. Ok buddy. good day.

the basic strategy of the ruling class hasn't really changed for 200 years - "divide and conquer".

...in my experience, i have found that young practitioners in any modality, full of absolute conviction and surety, are the ones most likely to injure their clients.
I find that the deeper PT's, rolfers, and massage therapists study and work by musculature, which again is a reactive system in the body, the worse their results are. The focus on muscle strength, length and size has a psychological basis - we are in the mechanical age....thus we analogize to this...seeing the body as mechanical, robotic...a system of pulleys and hinges, insertions and attachments. Our emphasis is however misplaced. We are 70% water - and are more accurately a system of pressurized membranes and relationship, where fluidity is at a premium.

@hatsix
you tend to speak in absolutes.

Yes, I work in the field, studying, practicing, teaching, and researching for the better part of 12 years. I am now looking the relationship of structure and health through the balance of neurological space in a fluid system.

Not one single modality out there has all the answers, PT included, but there are nuggets of value in every modality. Psychologically, we tend to focus on the distinctions in modalities, but the true value lies in the commonalities.

@hatsix
sure, Chiro is western as much as osteopathy is, but in the general scheme of things, somatic practitioners in the west are considered "alternative" health care. Chiro is good for acute subluxations. Poor for chronic. Most acute subluxations are however a result of a chronic misalignment that has suddenly become acute.

as for, homeopathy. quackery perhaps, but it also operates under the same exact same premise as vaccinations: "like cures like".

PT's operate under a principle of "strong vs. weak" muscles in assessing structure and prescribing treatment. Their general bent is to "strengthen" the weak muscles in order to stabilize the problematic joint. The problem with PT and any other therapy that is primarily concerned with relative length in contractile tissue (muscle and fascia), is that contractile tissue is a "reactive" system in the body rather than control. The control lies within the neurology. PT has thus been shown to be of limited effectiveness.

and, btw, the garbageman has done more for stopping the spread of disease than the doctor.

walk in to any drug store, which is an extension of western medicine...
and we have 4 main classes of drugs:
sugar
alcohol
tobacco
and prescription pharmaceuticals

the question is, which one kills you the fastest?

and what sort of profit incentive is there to keep you mired in your shitty health habits?

so @shveddy, who is reprimanding me for my "idiocy", would you please explain?

are you an md? if you are, the number of patients you see, the treatments you can provide, and what drugs you deal are dictated by insurance and pharmaceutical companies, and you have no choice but to comply while you pay off your 200k in loans.
Do you know what iatrogenic death means, or what the rate of iatrogenic death is? check it out....
There is plenty of quackery in the western md world.

as for Chiropractic, at least they are attempting to address the most glaring hole in western medicine: the rather obvious relationship between the structure of the body and the function of the body.

And when it comes to somatic/structural issues - which make up over 50% of hospital visits, and of which the western world treats with drugs or surgery, the chiro's at least have some of the theory correct, it's just their methodology that is fucked.

But, as for fundamental quackery, let's look at how the western world treats kids. First, hook them on sugar, then call them ADHD and give them methamphetamine salt (Adderol), followed by Ambien cause they can't sleep, followed by Prozac caused they are depressed cause they can't sleep, ...all the while they are raiding mom's medicine cabinet for the oxycontin or whatever opiate derivative they can find.
yeah, it's a JOKE. But we were trained to bow to authority, call the doctor god and worship the white coat and piece of paper on the wall.

I mean, for fuck's sake, listen to the side effect list of any major drug out there. really? that's "health care". bullshit.

Western md's shine in trauma, which was learned from our spirited attempts to have a continual state of warfare. for that they are top-notch. Anti-biotics were a huge deal, but all they've learned to do since the advent of penicillin is to make analogue after analogue, and they've stuffed so many people full of anti-biotics for just about every malady, that we are becoming genetically resistant to them as a species.
health care. yup.
how many of you out there can even afford this type of "health care"?
but please, do some research and go on for hours.

honestly didn't seem like god had much to do with that one

quite true. any notion of a child in imminent danger here?

while i realize there can be situations that justify entrance without a warrant...this power is extremely abused.
i'll note that i worked as an attorney representing victims of domestic violence in New Orleans under a federal grant for about 2 years.

i'll say this about the cops in these types of situations: in exigent situations, cops tend to be very, very light fingered. anything in "plain view" may be confiscated as evidence, and then it is good-fucking-bye.

ok people.
if the cops want to enter your house without a warrant, they need what is called:

"EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES"

ie: imminent danger...etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_law

did they have it in this case? doesn't seem likely. and it is noted that in this possible domestic violence situation they immediately tasered the woman.

altho i would also say it is quite arguable that western medicine, outside of trauma care, is kinda a joke too

well, it could be argued that the business and the doctor is also a joke

snarf! something about pissing off that class of neighbor seems kinda funny

really, that dude couldn't stay dead? after a 10 minute death scene complete with bloodied superhero baseball cards and all the Avengers morose over the demise of a spook with a spandex fetish.
and then he gets his own movie? wtf?

ie: see: "The Cosby Show"
the Huxstables seemed to do ok at avoiding confusion.