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bmacs27 says...

Are all Brits really stupid enough to think this video in any way reflects the American status quo?

robbersdog49 said:

Jesus fucking christ, this is just unbelievable! How they kept their cool in the fact of that fucking idiot. Wow.

How does a country get this fucked up? This guy was there to walk his kids home, simple as that. And they arrested him for it?

There's so much about this that I can't understand. How does a system get so broken

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bmacs27 says...

That's why he left the dinosaurs. Duh.

st0nedeye said:

Sorry but no.

There was no worldwide flood. It's a silly myth. Perhaps you should open your mind to the idea that not everything in your Bible is true, particularly the things that are absurd and utterly impossible, like say, fitting all the worlds species on one boat.

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

bmacs27 says...

Can you point me towards a comparable situation? I can't recall a situation where he was making an emotional plea about an important topic and was ripped for his usual stutter. People like Jon Stewart pick their spots. Comedy is about timing.

I'm not saying you can't get your digs in. I'm saying there's a time and place. Shannon Sharpe's speech impediments and questionable word choice are widely joked about:,7044/

That doesn't bother me. He's plenty self deprecating about his "book smahts." My issue is with context. 99 percent of the time you could crack these jokes in his face and he'd laugh right along with you. If you did it here, he'd rip you in half. The guy grew up dirt ass poor in rural georgia. He made himself a millionaire. What does he need to do for the peanut gallery to shut the fuck up for 2 minutes while he talks about something important? If he was being granted a shred of respect, they would.

Payback said:

I have just 1 word for you:

George W Bush.

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

bmacs27 says...

This probably requires some background. The details of the story are not totally clear, and won't be pending an investigation. The facts are that Jonathan Martin left the team after what was described as a "breakdown" in the cafeteria. Apparently the team was pranking him by banding together and refusing to sit with him. This is the sort of behavior you see. Afterwards allegations of physical beating and voice mails were revealed that suggested Richie Incognito (I know, ironic name) was the primary perpetrator of the abuses.

Focus has been on the use of the racial epithet in question. Frankly, I think this is a red herring. I, like many of you, don't really care about the use of that word. That said, I think Shannon is correct in stating there are signs of something deeper here. That is, real actual issues of race relations.

You've heard here that Incognito is thought of as an "honorary black" in that locker room. More background is that Jonathan Martin would have been the third generation in his family to graduate from Harvard, but he decided to go to Stanford instead. It's been suggested that Martin was ostracized more for this reason than anything. He just came from a completely different place than most of the other guys playing. At its root, the allegation is that they made him feel uncomfortable for coming from a wealthy black family.

What I find much more upsetting than any epithet is what I interpreted to be a continuation of the sort of attitude Shannon was talking about. By implying he had used an incorrect word rather than emotionally flubbing its pronunciation the implication, to me, is that his intellect is not being respected. Since this clip is most definitely about race, and that is a common stereotype about black men, I couldn't help but wonder if his skin color biased your judgements. That, to me, is much more troubling than throwing around nigger, fag, or kyke with your friends.

In the end, I think this whole story will blow over. It's just as likely to me that Martin was replaced as a starter, and is now trying to lawyer up (call his parents) to cash out his career. We won't know until they look into it. Still, in this context, I was surprised people here of all places would belittle this sort of commentary, and by extension the commentator. It's disrespectful to the message if nothing else. If you don't find discussions of race relations worth being dignified then I guess I think you're kind of a dick even if you aren't a bigot.

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

bmacs27 says...

Perhaps not. This clip certainly is. Perhaps you haven't fully appreciated your own prejudices?

Dumdeedum said:

Perhaps not everything is about race?

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

bmacs27 says...

The implication is that he doesn't know the words he's using. That is, they are implying he's dumb. That's a racist implication. Given the nature of the content, it's surprising to me that sifters wouldn't be more sensitive to that.

If I were to imply some guy with a lisp must wear panties in the bedroom you all would be up in arms.

Shannon Sharpe Rips the Dolphins' Locker Room Culture

bmacs27 says...

Being honest guys, he didn't enunciate it perfectly, but it clearly ended in a t, and he clearly meant epithet. I can't help but wonder if the tone of these comments would be different if the speaker weren't black.

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bmacs27 says...

I like radiolab. I agree, they could leave a bit more air time. They're well researched though. I follow this topic relatively closely, but they still showed me something and managed to keep me entertained.

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bmacs27 says...

I beg to differ. You are literally invoking Godwin. I'm literally invoking pedantry. See the difference?

ChaosEngine said:

@bmacs27, you are literally invoking Godwin. Yes, if you are going to accuse someone as being comparable to a dictator widely regarded as one of the greatest monsters history, you should have a decent argument to back you up.

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