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Is California Becoming A Police State?

ChaosEngine says...

This, a thousand times this.

If you are going to publish a video about an abuse of power, then you should be including details in the video like names, addresses, badge numbers, etc.

grinter said:

I wish all of these videos came with follow up reports on who was arrested, what crimes they were charged with, whether they were convicted, and what were the outcomes of any lawsuits.
..oh, and who had to pay for the broken doors.

Is California Becoming A Police State?

ChaosEngine says...

It's not "a little Temporary Safety". We're talking about cases of domestic violence here. Absolutely the cops should have the right to enter the home.

Let's be clear here. We're not talking about the police being allowed to enter your home whenever they feel like it, we're talking about a case where there is "probable cause of ongoing spousal abuse".

Mordhaus said:

Past rulings, from California and elsewhere, recognize that "probable cause of ongoing spousal abuse at a residence warrants immediate police intervention."

Basically if there is any call on domestic violence made, be it to any age person in the house, police can and will enter the home without a search warrant. You can resist, but the courts will side with the police.

In this case, the police had the authority to do what they did because our courts have been dumb enough to give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety.

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Is California Becoming A Police State?

ChaosEngine says...

I know that kinda thing seems cool when you're 15, but it's just not gonna happen.

In the real world, grown ups solve problems through a democratic process. You don't live in a police state. The fact that you get to post on this site with statements like that is in and of itself evidence of that fact.

So calm down, and let's approach this like rational adults.

Based on the information we have available (i.e. the video), it would seem that there is potentially a case to answer for. However, without context, it's incredibly hard to judge whether the cops actions were justified or not.

shang said:

fucking pigs, should be pulled out of their houses and hung from street lamps as traitors to liberty. People will eventually get enough of this group of pigs with god complexes and a little violent retribution will wake some up.

The only civil war I could see this country having is the people vs law enforcement, it would take the government stepping in to keep the law enforcement from being slaughtered

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ChaosEngine says...

It's all well and good and natural and so on.... right up until the point where something goes wrong and you're in the middle of the woods.

There's a bloody good reason women give birth in hospitals.

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ChaosEngine says...

You seem to labouring under the misapprehension that I was ASKING them. I told them to give it to me. If they hadn't, I'd have had them thrown out of the cinema.

And actually there is a legal precedent for this, it's called "ex turpi causa".

Besides, apply a bit of common sense here. If a kid hits a baseball onto your property, you don't have to gIve it back to them straight away.

These kids are self entitled little fucks (especially the un-self-aware idiot who whined about it being "so obnoxious... Stealing people's stuff")

Frankly, they were lucky, that THREE of them managed to overpower a small, middle aged lady. If the manager had been a bit more physically intimidating, this would've ended very differently.

Confucius said:

Lulz....since when can you legally confiscate anything anywhere even if its on your property? (BTW she was a building manager not an owner)

But sir...i didn't steal their wallet. I CONFISCATED it. Carry on then....

You're lucky you were able to bully those laser-pointer KIDS into giving you their pointer. They could have easily told you to buzz-off. Then What? Then you could have either awkwardly sat back down or you could have been the 'crazy lady' in a movie theatre.

The only legal thing to do is have a chat and if that doesn't work, call the authorities.

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ChaosEngine says...

That moustache just lends an air of authority to everything he says.

I don't have kids, but I do teach a kids martial arts class once a week. At the end of every class, I would award a lollipop to whichever kid worked the hardest. One week I ran out of lollipops, so I gave the kid a koshi nage (hip throw). Since then, I offer them a choice of lollipop or koshi. 9 times out of 10, they choose the koshi.



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