You need to do your research seriously! if your questioning the Christopher Columbus knowing the earth was circular. Most civilizations knew this they just didn't know where america was.

The problem with what your saying is this.. This guy died telling the truth unlike you! You really need to watch all 7 parts to understand what your
dealing with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgSCLBK6L4&feature=related
Aliens already made deals with your government WAKE THE #*$($ UP! Seriously this guy is dead.. you want the proof he shows it.
So yeah keep being ignorant you know nothing of real history and the real story at least I know and will know till you DIE!

In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
You obviously have me confused with someone who has a strong belief in anything at all. I believe what I see, hear, taste, touch and fuck, combined with a rudimentary rationale to sift through as much insane, incorrect and just plain dumb ideas as possible. I don't like religion and politics because the tenets of most expect you to believe something a little (a lot?) crazy and unprovable, plus you gotta join their club; which is just asking to be spoon fed idiocy. (But what should I expect from an insane race of mammals that are raised from a young age to believe in Santa Claus and manifest destiny)

Just the same, I don't believe in aliens. Shit, for all I know, everything I see on television and the internet is a back drop for the greatest lie ever told: reality.

However, rest assured, if the aliens do come and they are bad, I will be the first to join the human alliance; and, just the same, if a dystopian new world order threatens my freedom (or at least my overall happiness) I will join the rebellion, because I am an idealist halfway to enlightenment, a humanitarian, a warrior spirit (German, Irish and Cherokee) and a goddamn bad person to mess with if cornered.

Who is your teacher?

In reply to this comment by The_Dragon:
As my Teacher would say please don't call yourself a Scientist. if you did any research into the Antikythera Mechanism care to tell me who made it? Please show me. Otherwise I have a right to ask why! For example this crap is still taught in history that Christopher Columbus though the Earth was FLAT! Back then they knew the earth was round.. They just didn't know the distances. You can call me crazy all you want. The Truth is you stoped caring to know the truth long ago. Sadly I never stoped asking why! nor did I stop caring especially when i've seen some many strange things. You also forgot one question to ask yourself!
If lets say Aliens do exist and are wanting control of this planet cause they come from different places, didn't it not happen to cross your mind that some are good or wanting to help mankind out? or how about the fact you still work for someone are you truely free.. while people who are running big corporations get a easy bail out? I think you don't ask why much at all. If you want the truth go out to S4 at Area 51. If you want the truth go digging through thousands of sites like http://www.theblackvault.com or http://www.majesticdocuments.com which have thousands of government documents. Once your done reading all of that then come back and tell me I am wrong otherwise prove me wrong.

If you still think this is all BS! that is fine but your family will soon be caught up in this war some day whether you like it or not.

New world order - See how easy it is for people to believe a commercial is real. YOUR IDIOTS FOR UPVOTING!

As my Teacher would say please don't call yourself a Scientist. if you did any research into the Antikythera Mechanism care to tell me who made it? Please show me. Otherwise I have a right to ask why! For example this crap is still taught in history that Christopher Columbus though the Earth was FLAT! Back then they knew the earth was round.. They just didn't know the distances. You can call me crazy all you want. The Truth is you stoped caring to know the truth long ago. Sadly I never stoped asking why! nor did I stop caring especially when i've seen some many strange things. You also forgot one question to ask yourself!
If lets say Aliens do exist and are wanting control of this planet cause they come from different places, didn't it not happen to cross your mind that some are good or wanting to help mankind out? or how about the fact you still work for someone are you truely free.. while people who are running big corporations get a easy bail out? I think you don't ask why much at all. If you want the truth go out to S4 at Area 51. If you want the truth go digging through thousands of sites like http://www.theblackvault.com or http://www.majesticdocuments.com which have thousands of government documents. Once your done reading all of that then come back and tell me I am wrong otherwise prove me wrong.

If you still think this is all BS! that is fine but your family will soon be caught up in this war some day whether you like it or not.



In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
Comparing the Antikythera Mechanism to a jet liner in an Egyptian tomb is the silliest thing I've heard since Steve Jobs said the Segway would revolutionize the roadways. This device is indeed amazing, but hardly a case of aliens hindering human advancement. (More like time travelers stopping the world's early destruction imo)

Now, let's say aliens did destroy the ship carrying this object to halt our progression -- why?

To slow us down because their holocaust ships were too far off world to reach us in time if the industrial revolution started so soon? Why stop there? Why not systematically hinder all human advancement? Is it resources they're after? Slaves? If so, they'd simply halt us from achieving any progress.

Or was it... to prevent the human creator of the mechanism from having an unfair advantage, becoming a sole super power and enslaving mankind? In that case, if the aliens did this, then they're here to put a stop to any sort of dystopian new world order; therefore, I embrace them, til shown otherwise.

So many conclusions with a basis outside reality and in the realm of science fiction...

You're right, I don't have a clue what you're getting at. Make some sense and maybe I'll stop laughing. Honestly, I gave you some cred earlier, but now I'm beginning to think perhaps you're one of the least convincing trolls I've ever heard.

Prove me wrong. If you're privy to such information, at least try and teach me the truth without resorting to esoteric ideas with no believable plot elements... the truth usually has a nice ring to it, even when there are missing pieces, this simply does not ring true to me. Sorry, like I said, prove me wrong. I've never known a man or woman with a more open mind than myself, but I also have a hard time believing bullshit. Even my own.


In reply to this comment by The_Dragon:
How about I show you a device that wasn't suppose to exist.
I am sure your aware of this little surprise?

http://www.portifex.com/BSPages/FridayFronts/H0511.htm
Clockwork computer can predict the movement of stars and planets.. Made in Ancient Greece or around that Era.. No Mechanism can be found world wide at that point in time. No mention of clockwork technology being used on planet Earth. In 1971 the mechanism was X-Rayed.. They were shocked to find out it was far more complex then the clocks from the 1500's.

It was so sophisticated De Solla Price - "It was like discovering a jet liner in a ancient egyptian Tomb"
Was clearly owned by someone.. This is a Device.. it was kept away from mankind otherwise the industrial revolution would have happened before the birth of Jesus Christ. You have no Clue what your dealing with nor will I ever let you know. End of Line! your ignorance will be your downfall..

good bye

Concerning the other physical evidence it shows to me "Obvious" things (ancient artwork which doesn't make sense) which if you can't see then of course your not going to believe it. Some people still think the earth is flat!

New World Order sure knows how to pay off people They are getting desperate.

I've been to underground bunkers and to secret bases where if you even went off the road to take pictures people would come running over wanting to take your camera away! why don't you go outside sometime and see the truth for yourself! Concerning.. "GREATHUNS" I am not on youtube...for obvious reasons.

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
And, I suspect that the Earth is Hollow. At least partially.

In reply to this comment by The_Dragon:
In reply to this comment by schmawy:

I've been following "UFOlogy" for about twenty five years, and love the topic. You needn't be defensive. Enjoy your time on the Sift.

Really I highly doubt you know what is really going on, otherwise you'd be doing something about it. If you wish to chat on IM instant messanger. Go ahead and leave me a private message.

How about I show you a device that wasn't suppose to exist.
I am sure your aware of this little surprise?

http://www.portifex.com/BSPages/FridayFronts/H0511.htm
Clockwork computer can predict the movement of stars and planets.. Made in Ancient Greece or around that Era.. No Mechanism can be found world wide at that point in time. No mention of clockwork technology being used on planet Earth. In 1971 the mechanism was X-Rayed.. They were shocked to find out it was far more complex then the clocks from the 1500's.

It was so sophisticated De Solla Price - "It was like discovering a jet liner in a ancient egyptian Tomb"
Was clearly owned by someone.. This is a Device.. it was kept away from mankind otherwise the industrial revolution would have happened before the birth of Jesus Christ. You have no Clue what your dealing with nor will I ever let you know. End of Line! your ignorance will be your downfall..

good bye

Concerning the other physical evidence it shows to me "Obvious" things (ancient artwork which doesn't make sense) which if you can't see then of course your not going to believe it. Some people still think the earth is flat!

In reply to this comment by poolcleaner:
Let's say you were an Anarchist and I asked you why government is bad; to prove government is bad you send me a wiki link about the Nazis. That doesn't prove the idea is bad, it simply proves that version of the idea is bad.
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New Order Rules for those who havn't read them.
THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

Why is new world order a bad thing you ask?
Here is your answer.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES (New World Order Rules)

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

Lol I love how the liberals are now whining. Look what you did to Bush.. so you know what. oh. I hear something... oh wait... here is comes! Shut the #($$ up!!!

Actually this should be real news

When a Alien gets elected as President then ill Cry

http://www.majesticdocuments.com - Mazu15. Show me where it says Bush is a Reptilian. Also please point where I said anything about Bush being a Reptilian. Go back to college and learn how to back up a arguement with evidence you fool. Otherwise STFU!

Can you describe to me why a New World Order is a bad thing? How are we supposed to fight against the aliens if we're not under one?
Sure suggest you watch these videos and get yourself educated!

First start with knowing what technology is kept from you.
http://www.military.com/news/article/army-working-on-sciences-outer-limits.html?col=1186032310810

Then watch this video - Now tell me they showed you this stuff in school. Highly Doubt it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewshk_vjCKA&feature=related
Plus if you actually do your homework you'd know this stuff by now.

Thanks for listening at least most don't even comment.

New World Oder Zzzzzz. no surprise... Mass Media owns you people and you don't even know it you SHEEP! Wake the #(@*$ UP!

New World Order Wins! No Surprise You SHEEP!