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Pat Condell: Israel and the United Nations

messenger says...

Condell is usually a staggeringly stubborn and biased blowhard, but in this video, I think he's mostly just a staggeringly stubborn blowhard. I hear little exaggeration in what he's saying about the UNHRC. It's a complete farce, with the worst behaved kids in the daycare deciding together that the red-headed kid always needs a time-out and they never do. Even UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has said so.>> ^kir_mokum:

i've never been a big fan but this seem really dumb.

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BBC Panorama - Secrets of Scientology

xxovercastxx says...

Wall of text in 3... 2... 1...

@Gallowflak

Let me go post by post here...

Yogi asks why he should care. He states that he hasn't seen any solid proof that COS has caused any deaths. He thinks they're stupid and crazy, and there's not much you can do about stupid, crazy people.

It seems to me the correct response, if you disagree with him, would be to provide examples. Instead, GK starts building a chorus line of straw men. Yogi is a sick fuck. Every time Yogi asks a skeptical question, God kills a kitten.

Your first response is solid. You don't present evidence, but you do clearly explain why you have a problem with COS.

Yogi tells GK that he doesn't see enough evidence that they're a large problem; There are bigger problems that require attention. Obviously you disagree with this, but it's a valid position and there are no fallacies or childish outbursts.

Yogi replies to you, listing some examples of things he perceives as bigger problems that are more deserving of attention. Scientologists account for about .0007% of the world population and these people are joining voluntarily. The numbers are something I just looked up, but it's one of Yogi's points. I'd say it's a very insightful one.

You say prioritizing problems is irrational and ridiculous, but you don't say why. I'd be interested to hear you back that up.

GK says little boys are apparently shipped in bulk to Catholics so that they may be raped and adds another strawman to the line.

Yogi gets a little irrational with his argument here, saying GK is crazy. He compares arguing over this to arguing over 9/11 conspiracies, which is misunderstood by just about everyone to be categorizing the two of them as equivalents.

You call Yogi out on his poor argument though, in my opinion, you overplay it. You also add a strawman to the party by misrepresenting his statement about 9/11 conspiracies. You seem shocked that someone would respond with hostility to being called an irrational, thick-skulled, sick fuck who might kill kittens.

GK's next post is a response to me, which I'll address in a separate comment.

Yogi calling you a liar was not on screen when I wrote my comment. That was quite bad form. Things have somewhat degraded since then.

And now I come to your response to me. I said he was fairly calm and collected. He did wander toward poor form as I mentioned above. I can actually claim he was fairly calm and collected and, in fact, I did. You say I can't. Why not?

You bring up the 9/11 thing again. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you just misread it because you don't seem like you're interested in misrepresenting his argument on purpose. Or maybe you are since you've also twisted his statement about this argument not accomplishing anything to mean that GK will never accomplish anything.

He "blasted" GK, who frankly could use a blasting after that temper tantrum, and yet you, who claims to value honest, productive debate, defend GK. Nothing anyone could say would degrade GK any more than his own "argument", which really doesn't fit any formal definition of "argument" that I recognize. So who has disdain for for his opponents, again?

It wasn't so much my intent to defend Yogi as it was to point out perceived hypocrisy in you calling him out for childish behavior and saying nothing about GK.

Are you referring to me or Yogi doing a drive-by assessment? I'm not clear on this one.

The comment system has been broked for months. It's sort of been broke by design since the 4.0 upgrade and then it also doesn't work as designed, which, I guess, makes it double-broked.

I was implying GK needed a time-out, not you.

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Very Disappointed to Announce Another Siftquisition: theneb (Sift Talk Post)

smibbo says...

half-ban: take away posting power for a week. Dude, if you're going to get THAT upset about your posted vids, maybe you need a time-out from posting. Seriously, I KNOW how frustrating it is to keep trying to post a vid and you keep getting ignored or you have to discard and meanwhile people who already have diamonds are getting sifted left and right. Trust me, it is something anyone would pout over occasionally. On a grumbly day one can sometimes do silly things. BUT to take it out on the people who are simply doing one of the expected jobs here on the sift is truly toddler-ish. We (that's WE, meaning ALL OF US) supposed to call "dupe" when we see it. The fact that you had a blog first should be comforting - most of us who dupe don't even get that.

I just hate seeing someone act a toddler and THEN be pouty abiout it. Its annoying, yes but its not "a dagger to the heart" fer crissakes.

One week suspension of privelleges for abusing privellege.

Mom Ruins Kids B-Day

tictac says...

horrible mother?
i think that kid deserves a slap across the face. her mother goes out of her way to get a friggen car! you know how many people would KILL for a car on their birthday? and all that kid does is bitch and whine like her worlds over? muffin pie go cry me a river and while your at it i will have the worlds smallest record players sing 'my heart bleeds purple piss' for you.
If i was her mother i would return with a dump ass car and say 'here, the better one wasn't good enough so i guess this will have to do'. Her mother seems like a nice person doing that for her daughter who just slaps her in te face.
i think someone needs a time out.
excellent example of a spoild selfish brat.

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