Payback says... I guess it's the holier-than-thou, condescending attitude over Lantern's just being wrong... I agree on one item though, they are both ass beef. http://videosift.com/video/Behold-the-mesmerising-power-of-UP-s-buxom-charm#comment-1266585 There are more than a couple others, but that's the one which was my "telephone pole that broke the camel's back". messenger said: I'm still not seeing the difference. Everything you said about SB equally applies to Lantern except for the details of the problem (like it being non-scientific, and so forth). "Allowing" opinions like SBs also makes it possible to begin to understand the "wrong" side of the argument. I've sharpened these atheist claws considerably speaking with SB. I don't remember SB attacking anyone. Can you link to an example?