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ChaosEngine says...

The statements are trivially disprovable. I know several peaceful muslims. There, done. Your statement is false.

You couldn't find a better example of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy if you tried.


"Followers of violent ideologies are not peaceful".

Here's a thought exercise for you, since you seem to pride yourself on not being afraid to think.

Humans are not perfectly rational or consistent. They are, in fact, capable of holding two opposing positions at once. This is called cognitive dissonance (you're a good example of this yourself, in that you are engaging in a logical fallacy while upholding the virtue of rationality).

Saying "there are no peaceful muslims" is like saying there are no divorced Catholics, when such things self-evidently exist.

So, to sum up:
You are not right - your "factual statement" is incorrect.
You are not just - you are making a sweeping generalisation about 1 billion people.
You are not rational - you are engaged in a logical fallacy.

gorillaman said:

There are statements that are true by definition. Followers of violent ideologies are not peaceful.

You choose not to believe necessarily factual statements because you're afraid they would hurt your view of yourself as the beneficent, tolerant progressive. That's cowardice. It's more important to be right, to be just, to be rational.

ChaosEngine says...

Says the guy who makes comments like "There's no such thing as a peaceful muslim."

Yeah, I'm the one who's afraid of thinking. Nuance? Context? Who the fuck needs those!?

gorillaman said:

You're afraid of thinking. Much better to just keep congratulating yourself on holding all the right opinions.

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